It means it doesn’t bother me if I don’t win a game of dota. Sorry I’m not a part of your ultra serious computer game world where playing for fun doesn’t exist. Next time maybe you should be a factor in a game before you start blaming others for losing. Even Marvin said he stopped paying attention to you after you got battlefury. Half the game you were just sitting there invisible instead of defending shit. I don’t even know how the tree dies late game.
Well if you going to debate about why/how we lost, it means there’s some value in winning/losing the game man.
And btw, we push bottom because we lost a rax there. It needs to be done or else we will always have to stay bottom and cover it. So we simply push that lane to even it out, so you can move elsewhere and finish the job. Sorry if you donm’t understand that, but being down a rax is a bad thing.
Not to mention, pushing bottom means you’re with me, meaning nobody can touch us since we would be together. Just listen to what you just said “Gerjay wanted to push bottom, and I didn’t so I didn’t go” pretty much… Somebody had to cover bottom since we were down a rax, so I had to stay there. If you had come like I asked, we woulda cleared out bottom and then had free reign over the map once again.
Wow Matt, coming up and saying I played my part wrong. We lost a rax bottom, so I got bfury so I could keep the creeps off. If you don’t understand the concept, I’m honestly never playing with you again in DotA. You seemed to refuse to care about bottom, which was where all the trouble started.
And how do I die with tree late game? Try CM/nig with freeze + black hole + midnight pulse. There is no way at all for me to live once I’m frozen. Maybe if you were with me like I asked, they would have all died and we could have pushed. If, say, I was with you in mid, our bottom would have just pushed itself into our base and killed us because of lack of defense (Bry was covering mid/top with mines).
Ya I had to cover the bottom when you said i was just “farming” to get items. Its getting pushed to the tower and I went to stop it, but apparently when you do it its different.
I never once said “lemme just get crit before we push”. Or “I need divine before I fight again”. That sounds like a greedy way to play, and I wish I had anybody else in that game playing the antimage cause I guarantee we would have won.
And btw, marvin stopped paying attention to me after I got refresher, cause he couldn’t fight me. I could solo marvin easily, and he knew it. 10 sec disable means one on one I can kill any one of their heros. Marvin knew it, and stayed in a lane away from me/you.
anyone else playing the tree except smoked jaguar and we would of won. I only said that cause i was 150 gold away from it and right by the base. I thought I did alright with the AM seeing as how I used him one time before.
Big deal you could solo anyone on their team. if I got BKB I could of taken their whole team. I only realized that after the fact
“anyone else playing the tree except smoked jaguar and we would of won. I only said that cause i was 150 gold away from it and right by the base. I thought I did alright with the AM seeing as how I used him one time before.”
I will guarantee you that you would have lost still if anybody else was losing the tree, simply because you were playing that AM. Also, if smoked jaguar was the tree, you woulda had the same chances to win. He plays better than you give him credit for, but only if his teamates do what he expects them to do. He runs in assuming people will follow, and when they don’t… he fights it out also assuming people will follow.
You were pumped on the assumption that you would use it well. You wasted 2 charges of aegis when you had divine, or at least planning to get it. That’s probably the biggest mistake I’ve ever seen in a dota game.
And don’t give me this “I did alright with AM seeing as I used him on time before” BS. You’re a solid player, but the mistakes weren’t made based on how you played yoru hero, its the choices you made in game.
And also, just so you know, you say nobody could do better with tree, but I did just what I was supposed to do. I covered the lanes that were weakest, and waited for someone to come with me so I coudl actually make use of a 10 second disable. Maybe you don’t understand how good that is in thsi game. If you stuck with me that game like I asked you to, we could push without anybody even giving us trouble. Marvin, poeta, bundy all at once would have died. Come to think of it, with wings build he probably would have died just from the 10 sec disable alone, lol. Well, before he got the reaver that is.
lol, it was me/bry/matt with tree/techs/AM. Vs marvin/poeta/bundy/wing with Razor/CM/Nig/Axe.
what was the teams? who was using who?
Me - AntiMage
Bry - Techies
GerJay - Tree
vs
Wing - Axe
Marvin - Lightning Rev
Poeta - CM
Bundy - Enigma
And I said it a million times. I didn’t die on purpose wehn I had aegis. I was constantly clicking blink to get out and it just didn’t happen.
This game was suppose to be AR cept for poeta, something tells me they picked their characters. . . Well I think bundy did only because we had a convo about the enigma the other night.
My point was you shouldn’t have been there in the first place.
And omg, we had no right winning that game. I mean… if we did win.
Just look at their hero lineup, we honestly should have died around lvl 11 area. I think if they pushed mid, or even just other lanes since techies had mid supported, they could have won easily. I’m actually amazed now that we did so well considering it was 4v3 with teams like that.
watching jiggabree own shit up last night was too good
Anyways, one question I have for Matt, to end this whole thing.
When you backdoored their top tower, why didn’t you just kill their raxes too? The game woulda ended there.
Because I figured they were coming for me.
Heart! ?
I wonder if this whole baitscene will make other people wanna play dota for some reason. . . I sure would if I didn’t play it.
Hey GG’s today to Justin,Ivan,Jerris and Anant.
Yeah, GGs all.
Jerris has gotten a lot better… a LOT better.
Adil, you just break down under pressure situations, you give up too easy. KEEP FIGHTING TIL THE END! NEVER GIVE UP! SIMMBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
gg’s to all.
rc quarters is broken in cvs2. rolento is pretty fun, i might just have to pick up another character to practice with.
omg THROUGH THE PROTON CANNON!!!
GG’s to everyone today.
CvS1 is way too fun, too bad the cabinet is complete shit.
Ryu/Chun Li/Cammy(2) owned up today.
I lost to Adil twice, the second game was a disgrace and a lesson in how to blow a giant lead in Marvel.
RC Quarters makes for a far better experience.
As an aside, you guys play what seems like hundreds of games of DoTA. What difference does it make if you lost one game?
Ok lets sum it all up here.
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The teams were 3v4. Advantage definately goes to the team with 4 people but not by much due to early game money advantage from the team of 3. This enables the team of 3 to get more kills early game and thus gaining more xp and money. Thats why the game is actually only a small advantage to the team of 4.
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When Matt backdoored our tower, he should have gone for the barracks. If you kill the melee barracks, the lane is pretty much considered cleared. Whether you get killed or not after killing the barracks doesn’t matter; you died to empower your creep push which is definately word dying for. If you know you will kill it, you kill it.
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I couldn’t fight Gerjay when he had the fresher orb. He has 10 second tangle, so even if we gank 2v1 him, or even 3v1, he will double tangle all of them, taking them down to 1/2 health, and he kills at least one. He might kill 2 heroes, and definately wont die due to Nature’s Guise
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Gerjay is wrong about one thing. If you have rax down on one side, you dont have to stay there defending it. If anyone has boots of travel, you can push a lane and port home whenever you need to. So you can actually try to even out the game by taking out your own lane. Thats exactly what I did. Our middle lane was down 1/2 rax and I decided that I was going to push left lane and port home at mid when the creeps were getting close. I eventually pushed left all the way and at that point, we were in the lead
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I can’t stress this enough. Matt did not lose the game for the team. He was owning. He just didnt notice that while he’s stacking himself up with crazy items, his base got taken down. If anything, Gerjay and Bry should have pushed as hard as they could while Matt was busy killing all the heroes. Even if Matt can’t kill me, he can kill the rest of my team and force me to go passive (Defence) instead of agressive (push).
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Bundy kept telling me that “Maelstrom/Hammer isnt good for Damage”. Well buddy, I was at base with 1900 gold and I had to either farm for more money to get a burize or something, or I take the highest damage item I could right thurr and push. With only 1 slot, the hammer is the best choice. There is no other decision to be made when you are going for one strong push. Granted, I shouldnt have had 2 maelstroms. But I had 1 already, I pushed the entire left lane, and when i got back, i didn’t know wtf to buy lol. So i made another maelstrom. I don’t actually have much knowledge about the game’s item system or what stacks with what and what doesn’t. But I’m not going to let someone who has a lvl 16 Enigma that’s +12, has no intelligence items, and tries to fight Gerjay 1 on 1 right after I talk about 10 second tangle try to tell me that I didn’t play well that game.
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Wing was a defensive beast. Didn’t get that many kills but in the end it didn’t need to. He is the only reason why I was able to push all the lanes without having to port home that often.
The game was played really well. Very intense. We managed to win even though they backdoored twice. That was cool. Let’s not forget that it was 4v3. So it’s hard to gank. So lets not get so heated over a good game. The game’s over so move onto the next game.
bye bye sauga thread!
Billy