Michigan - 2004 - June-August

Regional Matchmaking Midwest
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Let me address the valid points you believe you have.

First paragraph: You don’t know the difference between basics, and normal attacks. Therefore, we can’t debate on that subject til you get an understanding of what knowing the basics, and normal attacks are, and knowing the difference between them. You actually told on yourself, and proved my point.
Normals are attacks that are in the game when you hit buttons. Basics are bread and butter combos, etc that you do on your opponent when given the chance, done without thought or hesitation. What I tried to teach you way back is the foundation of knowing the “basics”, but it got boring to you, remember? Why? because your execution doesn’t allow you to do much else, right? That’s what crouching middle kick to fireball would have helped you have. Good execution. You completely proven my fucking point in this regard, and you don’t even know what you were arguing against.

Second: Fumbling through a match.

Depending on what character you have, controlling space, atteacking, etc should be second nature by now. Mindless fumbling is never calculated. (god, this is too easy)

Third: My complaining

The only things I have complained about in CvS2 is the aspect of rolling, and the current speed of the game. Over the years, games have gotten progressively slower, to cater to those who can’t think fast enough to keep up. This game is very slow, to allow more frames and time to properly RC. RCing is not my problem. Speed is. Its slow, but I can still function on that setting. As for respect, I give it when I FEEL it is due. As does anyone else. What do you care? Apparently you do, cause you brought it up…Hell, I gave Benny respect, and what happened? He thought he was bad ass enough to call me out…Now, he avoids me…Guess why? For the record, if i didn’t respect you, I wouldn’t say shit to you one way or the other…

Fourth: You playing me.

Your callout is null and void. Playing me is one thing. Beating me is another. But, if you must, HF or ST. Actually, in HF, I’ll let Uber deal with ya.

Skill, by my definition.

Having more than a general knowledge of characters, games, tactics and strategies, and being capable of utilizing them in battle. RCing at the right times takes skill (damn you, Keshawn). Keep in mind, that is my opinion. You tell me whether you have it or not, by my definition. Also, give me your definition…
Also, having the ability to adapt to whatever game fairly quickly, whether you have played it before or not. Remember Matrimelee, Robo?

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HF Honda is my boy!

I’ll run obot in that game. Obviously, Hollow can beat me shoto vs shoto, but even my Ryu in that game can beat a number of people.

Robo: SSV Special is shipping http://www.neostore.com/detail.asp?ProductID=1115

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ST is not a perfect game lol. O Sagat takes 0 skill to play and be threat with (much like some chars in CvS2… lol). Say what you like, but basic knowledge of what a fireball is and a what a dragon punch is can easily make a person’s O Sagat a threat.

And I’m saddened to see I am not included on Hollow’s eclectic list of players with skill. I mean as slow as CvS2 is… people still can’t block crossups despite it being slow, people still can’t break throws, people still can’t block shit half the time. Personally, I like it on Speed 3, because on Speed 4 Blanka and Vega’s low jumps are impossible to to DP on reflex.

And I’d say CvS2 caters to scrubs as much A3 does. In order to be really fucking good in CvS2… you have to have alot of skill, execution and reflexes and knowledge of the game. Most people (by most I mean almost everyone in Michigan including myself) just don’t have that ability, thereby they are left thinking the game doesn’t take skill… when in actuality it does, way more than they have.

FOR THOSE WHO EVER WANT TO ATTEND TOURNAMENTS…

I AM ARRANGING ONE FOR EITHER NEXT SATURDAY OR FRIDAY… PLEASE TELL ME WHAT DAY AND TIME WORKS BEST. I PLAN ON MAKING ENTRY FEE 7 BUCKS SO PEOPLE LIKE KESHAWN CAN BELIEVE IT IS WORTH THEIR TIME TO COME. PLEASE GIVE YOUR INPUT, INSTEAD OF NOT SHOWING UP LAST MINUTE BECAUSE YOU DON’T FEEL THE TOURNAMENT WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO GO TO.

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For the record, due to my immense school schedule and portfolio development (heh, and work), I will be unable to attend any tournaments or gaming until at least (or around) the following dates (depending):

August 2004
October 2004
January 2005 (when I get my Certificate of Authenticity)

I mentioned 3 dates only because at those intervals, my workload may increase or decrease. I’ll do what I can, but until then, count me out of the tournament/gaming scene. Never thought I’d say that, but oh well. I got some stuff to take care of…However, there is one exception; or person to that exception, which I’ll find out in due time.

See ya.

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In your new style of quoting an unrelated line and then responding to another; if only your vaunted friends were around to help you when you thought “learn” was a noun.

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Good point,I"m actually about to start throwing regulars at wizzards!! (no offence) but A,A just ain’t got enuff talent to wanna travel for,I’d rather stay in METRO and play (take you outta A,A and i’d be fine).

Also I"m thinkin of starting my tournies in August,CVS2 and 3S are lookin like there gonna be the games of choice,I"m working on gettin our best (michigan of course) best players to contribute what they know about these games so that WE CAN BECOME A COMMUNITY!! and not just go outta town with random DIFFERENT styles and what not.

As of saturday I"ve spoken to DAN (wizzards manager) about these tournies and he said he’ll support as much as he can,NOW I’TS TIME FOR THE PLAYERS SUPPORT!!! players from all around need to PLEASE step up to the plate and give up the 10/11 bucks to enter both tournies so that we can get better overall,Ohio trip is in july I beleive soon after I think is evo so thats why I have choosen August to try to start things up.

One more thing,As for entry fee’s I"m thinking 5 for Third strike,And 5/6 for Cvs2 JAPAN RULES!!! single match double elemination tourney finals can be 2/3 grands can be 3/5 PLEASE let me know what you think instead of just rollin past my post give me a respectable reply MUCH WOULD BE APPRECIATED!!

PS: If in fact I do cvs2 as 6/7 dollars the extra 1/2 dollars would go toward some pizza/pop either that or I"ll try to do what I can outta my pocket!! just to make sure every has a decent time.

PSS: Also I’ve spoken to the manager at wizzards about possibly changin the sticks all together I’ve even made a remark about him puttin some other used one’s in ANY THING is better than whats in cvs2 now.

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VDO
JULIAN
BEST
VEGAS
LOWDOWNMUTHAFUCKA
CHEESEMASTER
HOLLOW
UBERSARUS
BIZOUNCE
OBOT
JUDGEMENTDAY
GENERAL JACKEL
FINAL SHOWDOWN
DRE
NATE
WSU (INCLUDES EGB)
CITYHUNTER
BENNY
JOE
VEL
MARSHALL
AVX
ROY
SAGINAW (INCLUDES Z)
AND ANY OTHERS.

Some of you I have spoken to and some I have not,check the above post and don’t take offence to me askin your work/school schedule. I"m tryin to fit a tourney to everyone’s outside bizz,so If you would be so kind, participate IF YOU CAN,If you can’t I’ll understand also.

If you don’t have 5 bucks now or some bullshit like that THEN SAVE UP NOW!!!

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Hollow: I dont really care about respect (personally)… but if Im the icon for the next generation of players in MI, I will argue and fight for respect for those I represent.

CM: my apologies… I talked to FS, he said u were waiting on my call to confirm that we werent coming… I thought I was to call to confirm my going.

TKK: Good shit!

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Thanx I ordered it this morning regular shipping, should have it in a week.

Yeah, and I remember FIGHTER’s History DYNAMITE too.:mad:

What are u, Hollow? Some kinda Doomsday Machine? U adapt to shit too damn quick.

I can still beat you and Clarence on Savage Reign, though (like who cares).:stuck_out_tongue:

Obot too.:lol:

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ROBO, hows it looking for FNG this week?

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Too early to tell, I’d say 70% on the good side…Lycan was here…I sure wish I could have seen the two of you play.:bluu:

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Well im sure I could find $5 dollars. But finding a reason to go to wizzards, to play a game ive only played a handfull of times in 2 years, im not to sure lol.

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Icon of the next Generation? I think Benny has that title:lol:

Not knocking you, but I beat you with Yang, Spuer Art 3 in 3rd Strike. Leave the tap,tap, hop punch alone with Ken, people has seen it too may times. He’s capable of so much more dirty tricks.

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FUN FACTOR!!!

Not just to play that game but to have some fun,see some guys you ain’t seen in a while and Umm think of something else!!!

CAN YOU TELL I’VE WORKED IN SALES BEFORE?!? :lol:

I appreciate you breakin the bank so I"ll let cha know the EXACT date.

THAT GOES FOR YOU TOO SHINKARAI!!!

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I fucking hate SNK fannies!
Gamefaqs has the WORST reviewers I have ever seen.
check out some of these quotes:

Reviews on Snk vs. Capcom Chaos

“A lot of people complain about a lot of characters being very unbalanced, but the truth is, its because they just suck and cant come up with a good strategy for fighting certain opponent and many dirty tricks. The key here is knowing how each character fights and what they are capable of. Characters like Goenitz will give you a run for your money with his nasty whirlwind attacks, but if you play it smart and change your fighting patterns, you can easily beat him and overcome any fighter!”

“SNK vs. Capcom: Chaos is the first Versus Series game where you can only fight one-on-one. If you want to name a game that plays like SNK vs. Capcom: Chaos, you better check out Samurai Showdown from SNK. The game features the same one-on-one style fighting and offers the same health gauge. The health gauge is double the amount of normal HP from other fighting games. That means making 100% damage combos are going to be hard to do.”

Now for Samurai Shodown V, you just gotta read the whole thing…

"For something that I had wished to come out for so long, this game is incredible, in that it manages to be so absolutely horrible. This isn’t an example of me having my too-high expectations crushed–all I expect from this series is a good fighting game with cool characters whose appearances simply make you want to play them. This game fails to make me even want to finish the game with a single character.

This thing doesn’t even feel finished. There seems to be no plot, no reason for your meanderings. Apparently everyone is roaming about, slaughtering each other like they always do, for no particular reason. No intro quotes, generic win quotes, no map like in IV to show a goal, nothing.

The characters are boring and not much fun to use. The character artwork is ugly and makes everyone look bland and boring. The character portraits in previous games were stellar. These make the current line-up look like they’re part of a children’s hour skit. There’s no edge to them! The old characters are more or less the same, some of them even having the same exact voice clips used in previous games. The mechanics are mostly the same, although a number of bells and whistles have been let go from previous games and new ones added to this installment. I never do much besides basic technical moves and kicking, so whether or not rage specials or other such aspects feature in any of these games doesn’t really matter to me. I should note one strange error and the ugly truth it lead me to: The game I was playing on was flawed. I don’t know how or why, but the C button made you kick, and the D button was non-functional. Such a weird error really alters how you can play, since it basically takes out your big guns, and considering the laughably stupid difference in damage between a light and heavy slash in this game, it should’ve seriously dented my progress. Sadly, it didn’t. Most opponents in this game can be taken care of handily with just A and B slashing and without using any moves at all. The rest just take ten more seconds to polish off.

That leads me directly to the topic of difficulty–there really isn’t any. A few of the new characters put up a fight, mostly because there fighting styles are unorthodox, especially for this series. The half-naked archer girl can be tricky with her arrow shots, and Sankuro, the old man with the hammer, doesn’t really fight you so much as he throws his disciples at you, eats to recover all his health, and then shoots you in the head. There’s also a giant, hideously ugly demon in the game. He can hardly even stand up, let alone give you a challenge. I’m surprised they bothered to put something so revolting in a game if it can’t even do anything. Earthquake could at least give you a good run for your money.

Another strange thing is that except against certain characters (notably Sankuro), any loss followed by a continue will result in you fighting someone other than who you lost to. I don’t understand this at all. All it does is obliterate the already pathetic notion that there’s some point to all this fighting.

There’s nothing really positive to say about this game. The only reason it garners a 2 is that it is a game in which Nakoruru features. Why was this even released?"

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Keshawn…

I don’t mind tournaments at wizzards and what not, but in the past the stupid speed difference and the horrible ass sticks got in the way. Petes has had better sticks and the right speed. Not only that, the problem with Wizzards for us fools who drive an hour to get there, is there is nothing to fucking do if you don’t wanna play games the whole time. And the selection of games are limited, and the place is crowded enough that you barely get a chance to play shit else. You also have to buy their shit from the vending machines or stand outside and eat shit from other places. I don’t mind dealing with some of this, but all of this combined together makes it not worth going. Especially when there is usually a 6 man tournament of me, you, Julian, Juan, AVX, and some other guy.

It doesn’t matter if you guys got good competition, if none of it is gonna join the tournament what the hell is the point. At least AA, usually can get 10 people. Plus does it really matter who YOU play anymore? You beat them all with ease.

I’ll definitely support the tournaments if you can get some Perfect 360s from Happ. They are 45 bucks a piece, if you need to know price. Petes has had them, and they’ve lasted for 3 or 4 months each without any fuss. And also the speed must be correct. I’ll bother to go, or else I am not going. A risk of shitty sticks is just not worth the drive for me… just like AA doesn’t have enough comp for you. I’m gonna try to throw tournaments here, I think you guys should come, if you don’t want to, its ok, thats your perogative.

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C-M: I agree that ST wasn’t a perfect game. I was simply responding to Obot’s callout by listing the first couple games I could think of that my foundation started on. O. Sagat would eat CvS2 Sagat! Remember, Obot brought up the idea of a perfect game. I actually don’t think such a thing exists…

Also, I definitely consider you to have skill. Its not that I excluded you from the list, its just if I started naming everyone, it would have been a much longer post…

Obot, can you point out in my post where I said I actually do respect you? Its there, you just have to know how to interprete simply english… Christ, and your a college student??

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noon, saturday is the best time. cvs2 should last til about 4-5pm single game double elim…for people that like to go out and not spend their night at wizzards thats the best anyone can ask for. japan rules are one game period no losers bracket which is also cool…but im sure most people are not down with that. i wish wizzards had more games…a2 ,a3,st =/ fuck that place >=[ anyhow, many people on your list are scared as well and dont enter when the shit is 5 bucks let alone 10. i think 10 bucks is good but thats just my opinion hope this works out maybe i will start playing outside of tournies if this shit pans out =P

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THANKS

thats what I wanted!! A GREAT REPLY,anyway I don’t know about the sticks those happ’s are kinda expensive (so wizzards might say) so I"ll do what I can just to make sure we all can execute good on them,As far as the speed goes it’s set to the REAL speed now,thats why there has been complaints about people losing to scrubs and etc etc etc,personally it don’t bother me I adapt.

Now i’m not tryin to step on anyone’s toes,But it would be great if I could get you to come here,I’ve done quite a few tournies there (won like 4/5) and You’ve done the same,As a matter of fact the FIRST time you beat me in a tourney was in wizzards (go figure) Tell you what though,If you can PLEASE try to make the effort to come here I’ll return the favor,notice I said I"m tryin to make a STRONG COMMUNITY not a strong metro detroit team which means I"m reachin out to EVERYONE,And don’t go off of the past I"m makin it my personal job to ask people I THINK will enter tournies so that there can be a nice amount of comp,it’s a chance taker I"ll say but just contribute your part and all else will be fine.

PS: Let’s not forget I’ve actually came to pete tournies where there actually was 6 people in it!!! LONG WAY TO DRIVE FOR THAT but when your REALLY tryin to support someone you’ll do it,Ohh and if you wanna try to hang or something to make your trip worth while holla at me,I’ll try to arrange something.

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TKK: I, and I’m pretty damn sure Biz too, are pretty much done with cvs2. 3rd strike could be sweet though. I’ll be gettin my license soon, and my car back as well, so chances are I could make tourneys if I didn’t have to work that saturday. Hell, if its early, I could see about hangin at George’s or Robo’s after.

Oh, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, the DIA’s movie theater is playing original, uncut japanese version of Godzilla: King of the Monsters. I’m pretty sure there’s godzilla fans around here who’d be interested.

http://www.dia.org/dft/pages/july.html