Metagaming: The Ultimate Marvel versus Capcom 3 Metagame Discussion Thread

Metagame referring to the game within the game, but it really means strategies outside the game furthering your performance. Game within a game…that like Inception. But Inception doesn’t mean something within something, but the beginning of something. The Inception of the new definition of Metagame has started? wut?

Seriously though, I would like to see some more stuff revolving around guard breaks. Spencer command grab setups. Frank West funny face crasher setups.
I don’t remember who I was watching at Battle Circuit, but they were doing some really nasty stuff with Spiderman’s Ultimate Web Throw. It was something like:
Spiderman bnb into Magneto TAC infinite infinite to death, then hyper grab (they block the hyper grab) xx Tempest, DHC into Ultimate Web Throw before any Tempest rocks come out, -> free combo.
You can do the same thing with Dr.Doom except on incoming you would do j.L xx Photon Array, DHC UWT
That stuff is really cool and funny to watch.
I think stuff like this and one touch teams like Nova, Spencer, Dr.Strange/Dr.Doom - Zero, Dante, Vergil - C.Viper/Dante, Vergil, Strider are the definite future. Teams that kill from regular confirms and throws.

Skinhoff is that Spider-Man player. However it’s not a true guard break, you just push-block late to get out of it. Same for many of the incoming grab setups like that, even FFC to some degree. Except on Phoenix cause she’s forced into the air lol.

Yea I kinda seems like if you just take the hit/hyper grab then they can’t really do too much outside of raw super into scaled combo if they are able to follow up. Or maybe a DHC if they are willing to spend the bar. It does have it’s flaws, but I’m wondering if the tech could still be developed more or pushed further. Problem is the it doesn’t seem like too many people are doing it.

What do you mean Phoenix is forced into the air?

No I mean late push block just gets you out of it entirely. Guaranteed. That’s why you have to mix it up with other stuff, bait them into thinking you’re gonna do the setup but do something else.

When she dies with 5 bars and Dark Phoenix Rising is activated, she transforms in the air and is vulnerable for a few frames, which is why UWT, FFC, Taking out the Trash, Spencer (and maybe Haggar?) XF into anti-air command grabs, and Skrull’s far elastic punch into Elastic Slam H all work as tech against her.

I get you.

While late pushblocking is a good way to try to get out of it, its not guaranteed. When doing the setup, you are supposed to react to when they start to drop I think. Though I do agree that it wouldn’t be a horrible idea to mix it up with other stuff, like Magneto’s dash under -> launch in the corner to save the two meters. It’s a bit harder to react to stuff online and I can’t say that I have gotten every time when I do it, but I can get it on a really clean connection.

late pushblock isnt guaranteed way out… a well timed setup u can’t really late pushblock out since you are out of blockstun during magnetic tempest flash. if the magnetic tempest is timed wrong then it is a 50/50 of late pushblock or no pushblock (spidey player can delay dhc for late pushblock, immediate dhc for no pushblock)

Also, you can’t just take the hit cause they will just hit with tempest dhc crawler assault. Then pop xfactor and kill you.