did you even watch the whole video? notice how he learned i could punish the overhead and subsequently only used the overhead when i had lost my charge. notice how I punished his yoga flame 2 times in a row at the end.
the biggest problem i had was that i thought you could counterpoke his arms with sweep or c. mp. I was wrong, I got punished a lot. what you suggested wouldn’t have helped me more than it did, because i was using it anyway, and he figured it out.
I know how to play against Dhalsim. one of the guys on my FL is the mexcian SF4 champ iirc, and he mains dhalsim, I go even with him. I’m 2-0 vs Sabin’s Sim (online of course but regardless). I know what to do with this matchup, I just got outplayed. Had too much trouble geting in and when I did I was too excited and botched my chances. All of what you suggested were things I was doing… if I missed the punish on the yoga flame I’ll hold my execution at fault, it’s only -5 so you can miss it. If you think you can find a better Dhalsim than MAR, go ahead, hook me up.
Yes the hooligan combo is a bitch. To anyone who has the fucked up misconception that “DB owns Cammy” and “focus owns Cammy”, I suggest actually playing a decent Cammy. That shit never works. Yeah, you hold DB, she gets in and shes massacring you with cannon dive. I hope to get in some more matches with Steinmania, guy just went to a tournament and beasted on guys as good as Juicebox Abel. apparently he plays with Yeb too, is on the same team or something? The main part of this match is you HAVE to punish as hard as humanly possible… every time I missed the punish on those spikse I was slapping myself in the forehead… you just can’t do that. Cammy doesn’t have much health, you have to stomp her before she ends up raping you.
Wehn I’d backdash I’d get anti-air hooligan grabbed. =( I did an EX ST at one point too, same thing. the ONE THING i did that got me out was an instant jump straight up roundhouse, which of course is highly punishable on hit. So… needless to say it’s not even a 50/50, it’s more like a 100/0.
About the hooligan grab on wakeup I don’t know if any of these work but none were said so maybe try them? Did you try foward dashing? perhaps it will go under her. You try jumping + air grab immediately? Might work i dunno :(. Standing Roundhouse when you get up? Try some of those not sure if they will work but they haven’t been said so it’s what I thought of.
To be honest, I’m pretty sure there’s nothing you can do. The timing is that it is literally as meaty as possible… I’m positive that anything with a start up greater than even 1 frame is just going to get you grabbed. If she can grab you during your crouching animation, I’m positive that nothing can get you out of it. As far as I can see it, flip is the only way you can get out. And in that case, you might as well just eat the grab… If you flip she can just walkforward and hp, cannon spike for ridiculous damage. So like I said lol, it’s a 100/0. Inescapable.
That is pretty retarded, if there is no way you can get out of it. Capcom better have given Vega I frames on Ex ST to counter this BS. Laxlight said that it may be possible to escape using light version of ST. Someone should confirm this.
Hmm. Could back dash invincibility get you out of the grab? Granted, Cammy could just spiral arrow to punish, but that’s better than a hard knockdown, right?
Hey Jozhear, excuse the noob question but how do you do that double claw attack on the way down on command?
You broke that focus with it, I find that whenever I resort to using the claw attacj only one comes out, regardless of EX or normal.
if she is grabbing the standing frame backdash will avoid that. If she is grabbing after the first frame you can duck. The backdash 28 frames, so she can punish with spiral, but if you mix up with your two flips you might get out. even if she tags a spiral its not so bad.
Damn I hate fighting honda. Sometimes I find it useful to do a jump in air grab against him. I have grabbed his headbutt many times with it. Also I haven’t given up on using izuna in this matchup! So far I have successfully grabbed the focus attack several times and the headbutt several times in a match. The butt slam still beats me almost everytime though. I am going to see if there is a way to dodge it, then veer close enough so that I could Ex FBA and continue the vortex.
@Jam- To hit with the EX FBA claw attack you have to press a punch button without touching any direction when you press the button. You also have to be in range which is very close so that when his hands go down he hits.
You did good for the most part, but i think you should just use s.mk as a punish for honda’s headbutt, just for the fact that the timing is less strict so its more reliable. Also, i noticed that you are being too offensive when you have a life lead. Jumping in on honda on wakeup is a very bad idea. But i cant blame you though…i still do that sometimes out of habit. I always forget that i have to turtle or runaway in this matchup.
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i suck at safe jumping. i figured at least if i had honda on a knockdown i could mess him up with a safe jump. but i botched it both times and got punished hard. safe jumping is the only way you can get wakeup mixups going on honda.
Maybe the Honda matchup will be a little easier in super… I have yet to beat a really good honda. I can beat the shitty ones who butt slam too much, but if they are aware all they have to do is get some chip and sit on down back… well, I struggle mightily.
I was watching the level up stream this past weekend, and there was a cammy player that was really successful with the meaty hooligan throw on wakeup. The commentator took notice and said that if one does a crouching normal on wakeup then it does not count as a standing animation. the throw should not work on crouching opponent. I have not tested but just thought I would throw that out there.
hey, thats awesome. I suppose Da Assasin could be right then. i’ll have to check it out sometime, seems like sweep or c. fierce would be the smratest things to do.
I tested it out mashing crouching HP stuff’s it no matter what. On another note I’m not sure if this is news to anyone else but I think I found a shortcut for vega/guiles ultra. More testing is needed though.
Yo Vegas! In case you missed it in the other thread, I posted some info about a little trick/shortcut I use to make backdash FADC Ultra easier. And you can also do a sort of empty backdash to Ultra very easily with the same technique.
Someone mentioned to me that they couldn’t my get method to work, so I threw together a tutorial vid: