I gladly accept constructive criticism with my game, after all I did ask for any advice about that particular match. But…your observation was almost completely wrong, like your nit picking as things that aren’t even there :s.
Example 1 - you said I did to many RCF’s and that half of them we’re punished. I did 6 in a match that went for 3 round, and your calling that to many?
Example 2 - You said half of my RCF’s we’re punished, when only 1 of them was. Basic maths, no?
Example 3 - You said I don’t use cross-up EX SHC, when I used it 2 times I unfortunately missed that’s all. I also used the none cross up version of the EX
SHC as well, 3/4 times I believe.
As for the over head & standing MK, it was just one of those games where those particular moves didn’t come to mind. But wouldn’t you say that’s part of the package of being on the shelf for many months? Ring rust is natural, I’m only human so it takes time to hone your reactions to immediately react with a particular move when the situation calls for it.
As for the over head being a “great move” it actually isn’t. If the over head hits, then fine but on block it leaves you on a -4 disadvantage which isn’t worth the potential 60 damage if you hit it.
Like I said I’m all for constructive criticism, but why should I let you lay in to me when most of what you said wasn’t true.
I have to agree. sorry GI, but also:
-crossover SHC is rarely, if ever a good idea. The risk is that it gets blocked and even worse, puts you into the corner at the cost of a bar. The reward is 120 damage, and a knock down. it’s not worth it to rely on SHC for damage or KD. It doesnt even set anything up. You’re better off saving that meter for fireballs, crossover or combo into EX FBA for untechable, or combo into EX ST for damage
About cross-up EX SHC : sure it’s not that damaging (neither being poor as well), but it opens to Claw a way to cross-up without jumping in. If you mix-it up at close range with combos that usually end with EX izuna (for example a blocked clHP cMP), it will hit often. And since 2012, it’s mostly safe on block due to the push-up and a slightly decreased recover time compared to FBA. Furthermore, meter would less be a limiting factor if you’re use to hitconfirm your CH hits into ST instead of EX Izuna.
I’ve seen Gross_indecency playing, and he usually land those one to twice per round after a blocked hitconfirm. 240 of damage and two knockdowns, that made a difference at the end of a match. Even if IMO it would be better to use them sparingly, to prevent the opponent to adapt.
Same for PoM : great tool of mix-up to open or at least confuse an opponent without jumping-in. Sure it’s -4/+0 from point blank… but it has 3 active frames, meaning it could be up to -2/+2 at max range, and most of the time -3/+1. It adds a H/B block mix-up, where Vega had only a block/throw mix-up before. You could follow-up with a cLK EX izuna, if not a cMK cMP EX Izuna… So it’s definitely a great addition to Claw’s game compared to Vanilla. Specially if you’re fighting skilled opponents against whom it would be extremely difficult to jump-in.
So I think it’s a matter of personnal choice. But I wouldn’t consider those move to be useless, specially PoM.
Exactly what I’m talking about.
But obviously Raiden, you couldn’t understand what I meant.
You did random rolls from middle screen, and you complain about PoM being unsafe. I’m talking about the rolls being thrown randomly out there. I use them a lot, but after making the opponent block with some normals. Even then a good player will hit you before the roll starts-up. Maybe you need to encounter with a player at least decent enough to punish these random ones to see what I’m talking about. This man couldn’t do shit.
About SHC, I’m talking about the cross-up one after a normal move. That’s why I gave a time point in the video to give an example.
Obviously you got angry. But, I’m sorry, your opponent is not even decent. Backflip in front of a super-meter-full Ryu and such and he cannot even time the super. His inability to punish the random things doesn’t mean your doing them is a good thing, although you are denying it now. So, go on doing these, and after some time you’ll say that I was right.
If you use crossover SHC more than once per match, then you’re trying to give away free damage. It’s not safer on block unless you do it with your back to the corner… Which if it hits puts you right back into the corner. Yeah if you know it’s going to hit then go for it but I seriously (emphasis on seriously) doubt you can honestly expect to ever land that against a competent opponent more than once a set if that. It’s almost never a good time to use it.
As for PoM. I find it hard to believe that a move that has a 20 frame startup is a good idea but a move that has a 22 frame startup is too easy for the opponent to react to.
What are you talking about, who’s getting “angry”? I never spoke out of anger at all. My RCF’s were not random, regardless of what you think. I was the one playing the match not you. I agree that they were not the safest thing to use at those given points, but my intention was to push my opponent in to the corner. As for EX SHC, Vega’s meter is important for his survival and we all use it based off of our own judgement.
As individual players are priorities are different, so only because I didn’t use EX SHC when you think I should have, that doesn’t mean I was in the wrong for not doing so. And if you really think that way, then quite frankly you need to remove your head from your arse.
My backflip in front of a Ryu with full meter was a daft mistake, I shouldn’t have done it and I got away for free which perhaps I shouldn’t have. I haven’t denied any of my wrong doings, after all why would I want to if I asked for advice in the first place? I’m a opened minded person, I don’t need nor want to feed my own ego. But that doesn’t give you the right to inconsiderately lay in to me either when I specifically stated…“I’ve been on the shelf for a while”. I made sure to get that point across. I’m a better player then what was shown in that match, but consider that was one of my first several match that I had in 8 MONTHS it wasn’t THAT bad. Since you see I’ve got a 3 year old step-son and a partner to look after, so I’ve just recently found time to play again
Here’s a tournament Vega you are less familiar with, because you don’t see him on SRK. Zeus aka ZeusTheGod_ on PSN. He is one of the greatest East coast Vega players, probably the best. He’s the best that I’ve met in the Northeast at least.
I followed the guy on PSN, his izuna grab rate was ridiculously good, esp since it’s online. Sadly he has been very quit the last couple of months (at least on PSN).
He’s impressive. Good reads, excellent zoning, swift hitconfirms…
The only thing being I dunno why he did hesitate (twice) after corpse-hops (expecting a reversal ?), but the least on could say is that his nickname made sense in thoses matches.
U1 against Chun. Interesting. I think I’ve never seen someone choose U1 against Chun so far.
Altough I use U1 only against Dhalsim. I was using it against Seth but every jumping normal he has beats my U1 going to the wall part, I lay on the ground after I hardly left it.
