one of my theories for the symbols popping up everywhere is that these symbols have some kind of a subconscious trigger that catches your attention, which is why it seems like any company that uses them is mega-successful. with marketplaces swarmed by 50 variations of the same product they are all competing for your attention, and these occult societies know about certain symbolic triggers so they exploit that shit with max power.
i do also think that conspiracy theorists give the ‘Illuminati’ more credit/power than they deserve, to what degree i’m not sure. it could also be that the reason these symbols pop up everywhere is to sort of scare people into thinking this incredible illuminati influence impacts every aspect of their lives, when really it’s just a dude that got paid to stick a pyramid or an eye of horus in the background of an advertisement. these are just theories but you can’t tell me those same symbols popping up everywhere is ALL a coincidence.the reason for their placement might be insignificant but it does exist, and some of them are connected.
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I feel the same way. I was always taught to never dismiss anything unless I knew 100% is was false. Basically to do my own research and come to a conclusion after I know both sides of the story. I find it funny when people dismiss 9/11 from being an inside job when there were way worse events that have happened through history that did way more damage. People think that just because they are our government that they can’t possibly do wrong to us, like, that they actually care about what that piece of paper says that states if you are a citizen of their country or not. That US Passport makes you bullet-proof against your government yo!@1 look what they did to the Japanese with the nuclear bomb, straight murdered them all. They gave Saddam Hussein money, guns and power so that he could kill all those people then killed him after he had his fun. The families in power of this country and world don’t give a fuck about you because they don’t have to.
I have a really cool gift for you but I need your CC number to cover shipping. Don’t dismiss it because you don’t know whether its false yet and plz send info
Do you realize you just ignored what I said? How do you feel about irony?
The clip you posted contained NO INFORMATION. It contained only rampant speculation, what appear to me to be delusions based on an preexisting bias.
See my last sentence.
Yup.
You’ve still posted no information. You can’t just post a video of a child talking about the monsters under his bed, and then say “discuss.” That is essentially the intellectual equivalent of what you did by starting this thread. You’ve not offered any ideas of your own, you’ve not addressed any of the posts in this thread. Why should I bother taking what you have posted with any consideration?
You haven’t done anything, yet.
You don’t know what you’re talking about. Any eye is not a specific reference to “the all-seeing eye.” Any pyramid (any triangle, really), any torch, etc. These symbols are not so deeply rooted in the occult as you have been led to believe, or are they representative of what you think they are, assuming you’re even seeing what you think you are.
I like how you follow this by saying a crazy conspiracy theory.
Please take the cross off of your back, you can’t carry it. Your ideas are far-fetched and lack evidence which doesn’t exist on conspiracy theory websites. Please stop pretending that anyone who disagrees with you is blind, or suffers from a “preprogrammed response.” I would bet I actually know more about this bullshit than you do.
If only you were as critical of these conspiracy theories as you were of the people who don’t believe them. The joke, of course, is that it would still be bad- because you’re not critical at all, you’re dismissive. But, at least you’d have the right answer for the wrong reasons.
Another example of you not having any idea what you’re talking about. I’ll come back to this later.
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Though I do wonder, what kind of biases would one need to have to agree with this kind of nonsense? I would doubt it would be a hatred of Beyonce, so I suppose you’re particularly religious? Or you view celebrities as sinful people, and therefore you would entertain the idea that they are literally in league with demons and ghosts?
It’s very odd, to me.
You are, of course, wrong, about both points. With regards to the Beyonce argument, it is fairly obvious why you are wrong.
The “false flag” thing is also fairly obvious, but more layered. Strike one, is that you are using conspiracy theorist nomenclature. Like many terms popular in CT circles, “false flag” doesn’t mean what you think it means. False flag refers to, actually, the opposite of what you think it does. It refers to a situation in warfare where you wear the enemy’s colors and/or fly their flag, so that they allow you to get into striking distance, in order for you to attack them.
In CT world, false flag is a term used to imply that acts of war and terrorism aren’t real; 9/11 is called a false flag because it wasn’t REALLY the enemy, it was the US government PRETENDING to be the enemy. The term can then be applied to any world event- the Madrid bombing, the 7/7 London bombings, etc. It can be used to effectively dismiss reality and support conspiracist thinking. So you can never be sure of any world event, because…You Never Know.
The term is also used by conspiracy theorists retroactively, and applied to Pearl Harbor, or basically any situation where America is attacked, to establish a [fictional] pattern, thus reinforcing their own beliefs, via circular reasoning.
This is all meant to say, again, that you don’t seem to know what you’re talking about, and are, thus, wrong.
Which you will now invent…
This doesn’t even mean anything. You just stated a contradiction, and ended it with a platitude. So their secrets are out in the open, but it doesn’t matter, because it doesn’t matter because it isn’t known?
This one at least didn’t start out ridiculous, but traveled there quickly.
The Illuminati stuff has been a crank conspiracy theory long before The Davinci Code came out. It was bunk then, and continues to be so. People don’t believe it because there’s no proof, and the more you get people to talk about it, the less sense they make.
By the way, the promulgations of New World Order/Illuminati/Freemason influence, are made in large part by conspiracy theorists, especially on the Internet. So noodle that one through.
Except, the entire, almost exclusive depiction of the whole Illuminati thing is of an occultist/quasi-occult secretive group. This also contradicts your previous point- how they are portrayed in the media does not encourage familiarity in any positive, or any neutral sense. You are furthermore incorrect, because you are again assuming these secret symbols mean what you perceive them to mean, which is not something that can be at all assumed. But because you are friendly to an overarching view with a conspiratorial bent, you can jam any such square peg into a round hole at will, because it is round enough, even if not really round.
False. Aside from the misuse of the term (this being the Internet, certain allowances have to be made, as this is nowadays the de facto meaning of the term, post hoc), you are using conspiracy theories to support your conspiracy theory. You are referring to a pattern of events which does not exist as a pattern, and some of the events within that pattern didn’t even happen as you imagine they did (and you do so to allow them to fit into this pattern, which one of the problems with your reasoning).
I already know them. But if you would like to present them here (hopefully in your own words to some large degree), I would be glad to get out my red pen and show you why you are wrong.
A) There is no basis in fact for this theory- that in and of itself isn’t a problem to me, as you admit it’s just a theory you have. The problem is all of the other theories you promote, even the ones you don’t particularly ascribe to, have the same flaw.
B) More specifically, you can see symbols anywhere. Off of the top of my head, logo for the Saturn car company can look like a freemason’s compass, or an image of Baphomet. And it is almost always RED. Certainly this is sinister, yes?
C) Relatedly, you will of course notice famous brands more. If own TS Auto Parts, and my motto is “Satan be Praised!”, and my logo is a skull with a swastika burned into it sitting in the middle of an inverted pentagram sitting on top of a pyramid…you wouldn’t know it. Because I would be some random auto parts shop.
You are assuming that a brand being popular has something to do with these hidden symbols, or the covert meanings behind their logos. That is a completely unsupported idea, and you are again assuming these symbols mean what you think they mean.
Generally, you apply zero burden of proof to these things, and when someone points this out, you call them intolerant. You are hypocritical, and I mean that in the sense that you are seriously not critical enough of these sorts of ideas. You are hypo-analytical.
You are assuming a pattern of events which does not exist.
You are fighting an argument which has not presented here, to the extent that it actually exists in the first place. Your righteous indignation is misplaced. To whom are you attempting to condescend?
Ah, I see- you are mistaking your anti-American bias for pro-truth bias.
You are mistaken.
More to the point, the things mentioned above are completely unrelated to 9/11, and to each other.
You, or more the general milieu of “you.”
This is, by a wide margin, probably the least crazy “conspiracy theory” in this thread.
Are you talking about these symbols having an ancient, unexplainable subconscious trigger or a subconscious trigger derived from years of human use of the symbols? The second explanation would make more sense, but honestly I’m only asking because I wanted to highlight what TS said without being spam. :razzy:
Thank you of reminding something I wanted to bring up.
From another thread, some time ago:
This is a pet peeve of mine because it is promotion of misinformation. It is intellectually cowardly, since you get to post your rhetoric, and then back away from supporting it. “Hey, I’m just asking questions,” and meanwhile you’re essentially posting links to propaganda. So, your mind is open, but not open enough to actually address the the issues presented? Should I just post a link to Birth of a Nation, and then go “hey, I’m not saying a necessarily agree with it. But you gotta admit…”
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My problem was not with that particular statement (though your lack of context speaks for itself), it was with your reasoning. I think this country has done bad things in the past, therefore I am willing to believe bad things about it without evidence, with perpetuity, even though these things involve different people and are more or less completely unrelated.
These discussions just devolve into childish name calling. You call digital anti-american because he says that the american gov’t backed saddam, or because he feels that wiping two cities of the face of the earth just a little harsh. You ignore that our country, just like every other has some less than spectacular moments in their past, and to bring these up makes you unamerican…i don’t understand that. I have perfectly formed opinions, and take a stand on all this stuff. Not once have i said that i believe a secret group of reptillian sun worshipers are taking over the earth, i don’t. Did we need to bomb japan, yes…but one city might have done the trick. I am just trying to see where i have stated that i hate america, or that this country is evil…because i don’t feel that way. One can not trust their gov’t and still love their country
All i have said is to not blindly believe what you are told, how this becomes “I think we have done bad, therefore we are always doing bad” is beyond me. Here is a idea, if you have nothing to add, just leave. At least TS is saying something, i don’t know what you two are doing.
