Actually, I was making fun of BP’s popularity and the amount of people that actually stan for T’Challa. Personally, I can tolerate BP when he’s guest spotting in a FF book, but I’ve never been tempted to pick up any of his solos. Not to mention that he’s a little too OP for me. And what’s up with this “SJW” bullshit? I’ve been seeing that a lot whenever social issues come up on threads…
SJWs are basically just super religious people without the religion part. At best they are good for a laugh but not anything you need to take seriously or really think about.
(“Social Justice Warrior” is what it stands for. Don’t look more into it unless you wish to hate humanity (more).)
Oh, okay. That’s one thing we agree on given how hard I rolled my eyes after learning that Hudlin–or was it someone else? Priest?–turned Wakanda into a magitech utopian paradise that withheld the cure from cancer from the world along with some other bullshit in the comics years ago. And they’re supposed to be among the good guys? Yeah right.
That said, T’Challa is barely anymore bullshit than Batman is nowadays and often with more justification, i.e. incorporating actual magic into his abilities, so if you like Batman but not T’Challa, that’s a bit hypocritical. Similarly, I’m far more interested in the movie version of T’Challa at this point than I ever have been in the comic book version, so the solo Black Panther movie existing is fine to me, especially since it’s being done by a component studio rather than, say, FOX.
It was Hudlin run that turn Wakanda into a utopia and came up with the cancer cure. He has run discarded so much of Panther’s history, wrote many characters out of character and read like fan fiction.
I’ve been seeing a lot of dudes complaining about their destroyed childhood ever since this whole “Hail Hydra” thing happened. Because I’m sure it’s going to be a 100% permanent change to the character that also invalidates any enjoyment you’ve had reading the character in the past as well.
Imagine the reaction these people would have had to Superman dying or Hal Jordan becoming a psychotic murderer.
Anyway, I haven’t read Cap since Rick Remender was writing it a couple years ago, which I really enjoyed. I am kind of curious about this new storyline though.
Okay, okay… so like this bad Bonehead dude wants to blow some things up, and the Avengers come swooping in to save the day. They flash their bomb moves, but Bonehead’s about to use like, his real bomb when the Red Witch girl just locks him up like WAH! but it’s not strong enough to stop the place from getting blown up, so this government guy comes in like, “You need to be controlled and sign this thing.” and Iron Man’s like “Yeah that’s smart.” and Captain America’s like “Naw, man. That’s lame.” Then another building gets blown up, and it looks like Cold Soulja did it. So then the Cold Soulja fights the law with his badass skills, running around like WAP WAP WAP, but the Black Panther is running after him like NYOOOOOMMM and he wants to catch him because his Dad was giving that speech when the building got blown up. I know, that’s deep…
So Captain’s hiding the Cold Soulja after a while, you know, cause they’re like, super tight with each other and Iron Man’s like ‘You gotta give him up’ and Captain’s like “Bump that. He didn’t do it.”, so they get word down that the real bad guy Zemo is like, “I’m going to reactivate the other super assassins HYDRA got laying around.” and Captain’s like “For real?” so he grabs his crew and they run down to get a plane and Iron Man and all the peeps that wanted to sign the thing block their way and say, “You gotta come with us.” and Captain’s like “Bump that.” so they rumble, you know, VROOM RAHRRRR WAP WAP BLAM BLAM BLAM! and there’s this new cat on the scene with these web shooters like PFFZZTT PFFZTTT! lacing up everybody left and right, and my boy Scotty’s like “Look, I don’t wanna hurt you, lady.” but the Black Widow gets him down like OW-
They keep fighting all over the place until everyone’s like 'We gotta stop that plane yo." or “We gotta get on that plane yo.” So my boy Scotty’s like, “I got this distraction bro, I hope it works.” and he uses his suit to get like, crazy stupid big and grabs the War Machine out of the air like I GOT YOU FOOL! HA HA HA HA HA HA! and Spider-dude’s like, “I got this…” and swings around, roping Scotty’s knees… I always knew Scotty’s knees was like his weak point cause of this one time when-
Anyway, he goes down like OW and the Panther’s coming after Cold Soulja like, “You killed my Father”, and Black Widow comes out like, “I know I’m supposed to stop you guys but you need to bounce right now.” and hits Panther with the taser DT-DT-DT-DT-DT so they can get away. The Vision dude comes in like, “You need to surrender”, and blasts at the dudes runnin’ but the beam hits War Machine instead. Falcon Man’s like, “I’m sorry.” and Iron Man’s like, BAM!
So my boy Scotty and the crew go to jail after Captain and Cold Soulja get away, and Iron Man’s like, “I think Captain’s right. I think there’s someone doing this to us.” and Captain’s like, “I told you!” and Cold Soulja’s like -grunt, nod- So then the bad guy comes down and he’s already got the other cold guys laid out, you know cold like dead, cause that wasn’t even his real plan.
He’s like, “Here’s my real plan! I’m gonna tear the Avengers apart with this!” and plays this tape, on this tape, Cold Soulja’s tearing up Iron Man’s Mama and Daddy, so then things get real. Like, Iron Man goes after Cold Soulja like “You killed my Mom.” and Captain’s like, “He was brainwashed.” and Iron Man’s like “You knew and didn’t tell me, really not cool!” and Iron Man blows off Cold Soulja’s arm like BOOM! and gets him down, goes in for the kill but Captain keeps stopping him. They go one-on-one and Captain gets rocking with them combos until Iron Man’s like, “I’m analyzing your moves, dude. Check this!” and starts hitting back, tells Captain like, “Stay down, man. I ain’t playin’.” and Captain’s like “Bring it.” So then Captain breaks Iron Man’s suit and helps Cold Soulja get away, and Iron Man’s like, “You don’t deserve that shield! My Daddy made that shield!” and Captain’s like, “FINE GEEZ.” CLANG.
Then Big Bad’s like, “My mission is complete. I avenged my family. I win.” But he goes to pull the trigger on himself and Panther comes in like, “Nuh-uh. You’re going to the jail, bad dude.” Then Captain breaks my boy Scotty and the crew out of jail and throws Iron Man a line like, “Peace, bro. Hope we can be boys again one day. If you need me, I’ll be there.”
clone saga was a fucking cash grab for die-hard spidey fans. come to think of it, the last few major spider arcs were so gimmicky including parker’s death and ocatvius replacing him; it’s dreadful. i hope the new series post-secret wars 2016 would revitalize the character again.
(Satan Christ, what the fuck happened to Pym’s lower body?)
…Also, does this mean that he’s technically now both Victor from Runaways’s father and grandfather simultaneously? If so, then even on a technicality that is some hilariously redneck shit.
That’s not my problem with the cancer thing, actually. As much as I hate to say it, I can somewhat understand not sharing a cure for cancer with the general populace for various reasons, especially if they’re are any “side-effects”, though since it’s magickal, utopian Wakanda, I doubt there are. I also, as I said, haven’t ever been interested enough in Black Panther comics to make any comparative between writers for him; I just know that various people take a lot of issue with things that Hudlin did and his reasoning behind them, i.e. getting Storm and Black Panther together solely because they’re the most well-known “black” people in Marvel Comics (…even though both of them are African).
Anyway, my chief problem is that presumably they’ve had this technology for a while…and yet they’ve let other heroes suffer, even die, from cancer, as happened with the first Captain Marvel. Like…what the fuck? What possible excuse is there for that even taking isolationism into account given that T’Challa has personally worked with a lot of these people and supposedly called them friends?
Aside from the cancer thing, my other issue with Wakanda was their treating Mutants like lepers and putting dampening collars on them. I was thinking: “Is this Wakanda or Genosha?” Phoenix Namor made it even when he flooded the joint, so I’m good with that…
(patiently waits for RockBogart to have excuses for his beau’s country)
Meh.
I can also understand putting dampening collars on at least certain mutants depending on what their powers are, especially if they’re okay with it or hell, actively desire it. Like, say, Wither with his “everything organic I touch with my skin withers and die” power. Guy basically didn’t want to have powers in the first place, especially since he accidentally killed his father when they first manifested. To say nothing of that poor, unnamed kid in Ultimate X-Men who essentially had an airborne version of that power (and maybe have been the Ultimate version of him) that he couldn’t control either and took out essentially his entire town overnight. Part of what has the X-Men “mutants and humans living in harmony” thing fall apart on the mutants’ side is that some mutants are (extremely) dangerous just by the nature of their uncontrollable powers, if only to themselves, and some of them would gladly agree to be cured of their “powers” given shitty said powers actually are.
Where things start to fall apart on the humans side, however, including probably in Wakanda as well despite it being a “paradise”, is that uniform solutions tend not to work in general, especially when it comes to mutants. Dampening collars may be the exception to the rule, but even they have an absolutely horrible, almost death-camp-esque history in-universe. The other general public “solutions” of bullying & openly discriminating against known mutants and okaying giant, metallic killer robots at various to deal with them, however, are definitely just outright fucking stupid and even suicidal, especially in the case of the latter where they were somehow okay’d despite mutant public enemy #1 at the time openly describing himself as The Master of Magnetism.
I swear, the Marvel public is even more moronic than the real-life one is, which is both sad and terrifying, but the Big Two’s superhero comics have never been big on internal logic, especially given “Status Quo is Good”, which is part of why Parker remained such as fucking loser for so long despite how smart, strong, and weirdly attractive–he regularly pulls in model-level looking women–he’s always been.