M.Bison General Thread: Come here prepared to fight a madman, and instead you will find a GOD!

[Kriger_Stern]

@gig4ls
The reason why i asked Kyouya about Dic is because he’s a really good ST player and he mained Dic like i did. Glad to have others chip in doe !
I agree with pretty much everything you say. Especially the “singular plan” and “toolset” and “lack of identity” parts.

I remember when i played the first Beta… I was having a absolute BLAST. Also remember saying something like “damn SON ! I am NOT used to Dic feeling like a high-tier char”.
Beta 2 made me way less excited for obvious reasons.

Ultimately the final version of the game will decide wether i stick with dictator or not.
I feel like if Beta 2 dictator is gonna be the “final” dictator i might aswell start fresh and try to learn how to play Ryu , etc.
But… if he keeps the damage output he had in Beta 1 along with that good cr.HP anti-air and the OG psycho blast , i will def stay Dic

edit : ah @Kyouya yeah lol. That guy was really good too !

Was gonna say , honestly , the only time i’ve used V-trigger is to catch people offguard with that “teleporting” Devil’s reverse.
I can’t tell you how many matches i’ve clutched out by using V-trigger DR

He won’t keep his dmg output from beta 1 because no one will. Damage values have been adjusted to lower numbers for every character.

[PVL_93_RU]

SF4 was meant for casual SF2 players. Bison’s capeless, slim form was consequence of that. They even got rid of his Butt chin.

SF4 Bison wasn’t slim though. He still had larger and more comic-like proportions than his SF2/CvS counterpart. He’s slimmer than Alpha Bison. I think he also has a butt chin. It was Sakura IIRC who made fun of it in her win quote.

SF5 Bison finally struck the balance between Fat and Slim Bison, and most of all SF5 Bison’s face is perfect. Some of his facial expressions are almost identical to the SF2 AM.

What I personally like the most about SF5’s Bison is not his face. Not even his costume design. It’s the pose. He’s so fucking badass!

Standing there with his arms crossed and a big grin like he’s saying to you “COME, WORM. YOU SHALL TASTE THE MIGHT OF MY PSYCHO POWER. COME THE FUCK AT ME, IF YOU DARE!”

It’s so cool!

[God_2.0]

Yeah, I agree. His new stance and walk animation fits his arrogance perfectly.

[Deadpool_Merc]

SF4 was meant for casual SF2 players. Bison’s capeless, slim form was consequence of that. They even got rid of his Butt chin.

SF4 Bison wasn’t slim though. He still had larger and more comic-like proportions than his SF2/CvS counterpart. He’s slimmer than Alpha Bison. I think he also has a butt chin. It was Sakura IIRC who made fun of it in her win quote.

SF5 Bison finally struck the balance between Fat and Slim Bison, and most of all SF5 Bison’s face is perfect. Some of his facial expressions are almost identical to the SF2 AM.

What I personally like the most about SF5’s Bison is not his face. Not even his costume design. It’s the pose. He’s so fucking badass!

Standing there with his arms crossed and a big grin like he’s saying to you “COME, WORM. YOU SHALL TASTE THE MIGHT OF MY PSYCHO POWER. COME THE FUCK AT ME, IF YOU DARE!”

It’s so cool!

Oh it certainly is badass and while I hate slow walk speed characters, I absolutely love how deliciously evil his walk animation is.
Unfortunately he aint as intimidating as he was in beta 1. Capcom pls

[Wikum]

Any new changes to Bipson in the stress test?

[Kriger_Stern]

Stress test buffs:

Inferno is circle motion. 90,100,110 damage. Combos from mp,mp,hp.
Nom vt dash is faster
Ex vt headpress A Lot faster
Slightly bigger blast hitbox
Cc slide is a hard knockdown
Cr.MK is cancellable.

Nerfs
Scissors into super only fist hit
Psycho axe 90->80
Cr.MK has no frame advantage.

[Daemos]

Please tell me they buffed blast damage.

The inferno and dash buffs are delicious. I hope the HKD slide combos into OTG HS if spaced correctly.

[cerberusfx]

I heard bison’s crMK is cancelable. Is this true ?

[Kriger_Stern]

Updated my impressions. Cr.MK is indeed cancellable. I don’t just see its usefulness.
Blast still 70 damage. Medium and Heavy still safe against 3f.
HDK Slide doesn’t combo into OTG HP, but you can wall carry the enemy. One slide and at least 1/2 the stage is done.

[kenshin220]

i don’t know if anyone mentioned this but down toward fierce is a crush counter and so is slide again but you can’t combo off the slide crush i think its just a hard knockdown

[cerberusfx]

wall carry the enemy? you mean by dashing ? but what happens if you are in VT ?

[Wallach]

i don’t know if anyone mentioned this but down toward fierce is a crush counter and so is slide again but you can’t combo off the slide crush i think its just a hard knockdown

That change is global, all sweeps are now crush counters. They all result in immediate hard knockdowns.

[Clamper]

Someone said on Eventhubs they’ve added a target combo for Bison, is this true? Something like MP into Psycho Axe.

[Clamper]

Updated my impressions. Cr.MK is indeed cancellable. I don’t just see its usefulness.

It doesnt combo into Scissors?

[DevilJin_01]

Yup. s.MP, df+HP is now a chain. It only combos on counter hit though.

[cerberusfx]

kumonphonics said 1 hour, 10 minutes ago

Hey these are the changes I’ve discovered with Bison so far:

Because of the new QCB motion on his psycho inferno he now does slightly more damage on punishes since he can cancel standing hp into inferno, this really helps when in v-trigger as he can cancel heavy inferno into ex headstomp for an easy 35% combo. LP inferno now consistently snuffs out fireballs and since its multiple hits it can beat 2 hit fireballs. Forward teleport invincibility starts sooner so he can dash through attacks easier than before. He also has a new target combo now, St.mp into Psycho axe. Doesn’t combo though. The psycho axe part is -2, but they made his non-target combo psycho axe +1 on block(used to be -2). He can also has noticeably more control over devil’s reverse. In the previous beta, while in V-trigger ex scissors had SOME startup invincibility, this has been removed and it now functions like the other scissor kicks.

Edit: 8:13 PST and my beta is still live

if anyone wanted to know

[Daemos]

kumonphonics said 1 hour, 10 minutes ago

Hey these are the changes I’ve discovered with Bison so far:

Because of the new QCB motion on his psycho inferno he now does slightly more damage on punishes since he can cancel standing hp into inferno, this really helps when in v-trigger as he can cancel heavy inferno into ex headstomp for an easy 35% combo. LP inferno now consistently snuffs out fireballs and since its multiple hits it can beat 2 hit fireballs. Forward teleport invincibility starts sooner so he can dash through attacks easier than before. **He also has a new target combo now, St.mp into Psycho axe. Doesn’t combo though. **The psycho axe part is -2, but they made his non-target combo psycho axe +1 on block(used to be -2). He can also has noticeably more control over devil’s reverse. In the previous beta, while in V-trigger ex scissors had SOME startup invincibility, this has been removed and it now functions like the other scissor kicks.

Edit: 8:13 PST and my beta is still live

if anyone wanted to know

So they removed the teleport visual from V/VEX SK?

Also how does the part in bold make sense?

[Plaid_Unicorn]

A new target combo that’s not a combo…seems legit

[Alexisdabomb]

A new target combo that’s not a combo…seems legit

That doesn’t pose too well for Alex… I don’t want to see that worthless cr.LK, Sweep target combo that’s not a combo come back yo!

[cerberusfx]

seems like it combos only if stMP hits on counter hit