5943

I don’t really consider what Ken did at the end crazy, Galtu01 took a risk with forward dash into something and got counter hit a common occurrence against high level opponents.

The set up at the end was dirty but Tampa Bison developed a similar set up as well for Dictator. Namely combo into EX. Inferno and then instant jump forward light punch, if the opponent back recovery’s Bison will end in front even though it looks like Bison will cross over his opponent. It doesn’t work if the opponent uses normal recovery. I wonder if the same applies to Momochi’s set up here.

5944

Yeah, Momochi was very tame and patient the entire, save for a random tatsu. Momochi never is crazy, but we all know how tons of other top kens that are the opposite, though. I’m extremely surprised he didnt even attempt a jump when Galtu kept do st.hp after st.mp. I’m not taking anything away from his victory, he played awesomely. But ken still gets hella damage off of damn near anything.

5945

I just want these back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDwuF4gQGzM

yes. All of it.

5946

I think that’s the version Justin Wong use in E3; it’s waaaaay better than the one we got.

5947

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8n0563liHg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGeENlS9vNw

5948

I don’t even want to see those old videos. The amount of stuff they took from him is just unbelievable.

5949

Capcom really got to make the right balance changes for season 2, otherwise I’ve got a feeling that many people (especially Bison mains) will drop the game, me included :confused:

5950

Fuck everything else, I’d kill for that cr.mk, cr.hp damage, and that crush counter sweep!

5951

I already drop the game and I think others here too. Watching that video proof there was absolutely nothing to justify all they took from him; all that should come back, among other improvements he needs. I am 100 percent sure that version would have being mid tier.

5952

Another weekend of Capcom Pro Tour and then finals in December.

Revisions are coming, good or bad, they are coming. Steadily get hyped!

5953

I have my reaction pics ready for S2:

Bison gets good buffs:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFYQRIOUMAAI3Q9.jpg:orig

Bison gets disappointing buffs:

5954

that reaction picture for buffing him is beyond excellent

5955

Well, they couldn’t possibly make him worse.

… could they?

5956

B2 Bison was the worst.

5957

Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting was pretty bleak for Bison :frowning:

5958

sf4 vanilla was too. People just didn’t realize how strong some characters were.

5959

I don’t think vanilla SF IV was anywhere near as bad for Bison as Hyper Fighting.

Bison had no reversals in a game where tick throws where incredible powerful and couldn’t be softened or teched.
A floaty jump that was easy to anti air and almost no anti air options other than a 9 frame C.HP that had terrible priority and could barely even be considered an anti air.
He also had no cross up. Head Press and Skull Diver didn’t even do chip damage in that game.

He’s even worse than old M.Bison from ST and he was considered trash tier in that game.

5960

Why are we playing this game?

Just to suffer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJEL-IjSSdY

(i dropped it 2 months ago until season 2 tho lol)

5961

Du is a great player with dem yung art reactions. Tampa may or may not have been playing at his best, but this is kind of a bad match up for Bison too. It is what it is. Just not a definitive state of the character. It’s just one set.

5962

IMO it’s not “kind of” but actually hands down Bison’s worst matchup and one of the hardest in the game.