M.Bison General Thread: Come here prepared to fight a madman, and instead you will find a GOD!

digos25 · 2016-11-13T05:34:31.000Z

Found out that you can do VT EX DR into EX SKs. @LoupGris the mirror

digos25 · 2016-11-13T05:37:09.000Z

We talk about how Bison should change in S2 but have any top Bison players like Tampa Bison or Pnoy shared any opinion on that?

Daemos · 2016-11-13T05:43:20.000Z

digos25:

We talk about how Bison should change in S2 but have any top Bison players like Tampa Bison or Pnoy shared any opinion on that?

Only Phenom shared.

LoupGris · 2016-11-13T06:09:24.000Z

The mirror! Ugh! ha ha.

Phenom basically just said “anti air” if I recall correctly. He also said on the jump in podcast he won’t be playing Bison even if he gets buffs in S02.

Daemos · 2016-11-13T06:14:28.000Z

Well good riddance! Another Bison will rise the ashes!

digos25 · 2016-11-13T07:17:30.000Z

We have our heros, Pnoy, Tampa and Galtu. We don’t need Phenom. But yeah it whold be cool to see wath they have to say about buffs.

Thunda · 2016-11-13T11:25:02.000Z

Is there some sort of strike invince on regular headstomp when canceled from a normal? A few Vreversals wont hit, even at point blank you cant get hit when you cr.mp into it. I tested it against a few V-reversals, I think M.Bison’s hit the headstomp, Chun and Kens missed. I was diddling around in training mode, so I cant remember all that I tested, but I remember Ryu’s and Karin’s V-reversals being completely hit invincible on the entire recovery. Anti Vreversal tech with Vtrigger scissors kicks does not work on those two.

Azza · 2016-11-13T16:10:06.000Z

digos25:

Found out that you can do VT EX DR into EX SKs. @LoupGris the mirror

That’s old tech. You can actually do VT EX.DR, Psycho Inferno xx EX.SK.
You can combo into Psycho Blast and then cancel into EX.SK as well but its very difficult to do and the the last hit of EX.SK is prone to missing.

Flashy_Nights · 2016-11-14T02:25:10.000Z

Once I got my spacing down it’s not a problem to anti air a jump in with crouching fierce. I’m getting less and less trades as well.

Hell attack is where my brain hurts really. I wish his Hell attack returned to how it was back in the day.

I’m still wondering why we can’t get both hell attacks out while in the air?

Classic Boss char lives matter Capcom!

Deadpool_Merc · 2016-11-14T09:08:29.000Z

Azza:

Deadpool_Merc:

Man oh man, since Urien’s release and now Gouki being announced I won’t have time for Lord Bipson anymore.

I mean I’ve still been using him lately, but damn the struggle is always real whenever I go back to him.

You rebel scum…GTFO you traitor!.

traitor?

stop playing with me, I been on the Bison struggle since day one. Yes, I’ve strayed away to use different characters (if I was to only use Bison I’d have dropped this damn game already) for learning purposes and because I like other characters, but until Gouki is in this joint Lord Bipson is still my favorite character in this game.

Purple flames forever.

digos25 · 2016-11-14T09:26:36.000Z

Azza:

digos25:

Found out that you can do VT EX DR into EX SKs. @LoupGris the mirror

That’s old tech. You can actually do VT EX.DR, Psycho Inferno xx EX.SK.
You can combo into Psycho Blast and then cancel into EX.SK as well but its very difficult to do and the the last hit of EX.SK is prone to missing.

Yeah, tried blast and it’s inconsistent, is EX DR xx Inferno xx EX SK concistent?

Azza · 2016-11-14T15:09:38.000Z

Yeah its consistent.

Kingly_name · 2016-11-14T21:42:18.000Z

I watched this video today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhefCPZ-adI

Galtu pressed every button imaginable. Ken pressed like two buttons it’s an easy 50/50 for 35% dmg guaranteed. So god damn sad.

gian2412 · 2016-11-14T23:02:03.000Z

Once again this shows how bad and weak this character is; he inferior in every aspect to Ken and Combofiend agree with me he said a while ago “He has good damage output, he can close distance with the run… he’s just always threatening, he has an invincible reversal, and that is scary because then you’re always hesitating. Crush Counter combos for days,” continued Fiend. “In a game like SF5 that’s extremely tense, and has close quarter combat, the last thing you want is somebody who has an invincible uppercut to come at you.” In other words everything Bison doesn’t have.

If there is something that Capcom might nerf about Bison is Ex.DR and in my opinion should be buff, normal and Ex DR are to slow and is a move that works best when is block! because only then we can continue the pressure but if Bison hit with it we get nothing; imagine if after hit we could S.Hk, C.Mp, Inferno.

Daemos · 2016-11-14T23:33:55.000Z

Nothing about SF5 Bison deserves a nerf. Literally, NOTHING. But they will nerf something, to “balance” any buff they give him. It’s fucking retarded, but seriously this character only deserves buffs and tweaks in a buffy direction at this point.

Flashy_Nights · 2016-11-14T23:50:15.000Z

gian2412:

Once again this shows how bad and weak this character is; he inferior in every aspect to Ken and Combofiend agree with me he said a while ago “He has good damage output, he can close distance with the run… he’s just always threatening, he has an invincible reversal, and that is scary because then you’re always hesitating. Crush Counter combos for days,” continued Fiend. “In a game like SF5 that’s extremely tense, and has close quarter combat, the last thing you want is somebody who has an invincible uppercut to come at you.” In other words everything Bison doesn’t have.

If there is something that Capcom might nerf about Bison is Ex.DR and in my opinion should be buff, normal and Ex DR are to slow and is a move that works best when is block! because only then we can continue the pressure but if Bison hit with it we get nothing; imagine if after hit we could S.Hk, C.Mp, Inferno.

I gotta disagree with you thar, on Ex DR being slow. It’s not slow at all everything about the move is pretty fair from the + frames speed and control we have with it. I also think it works best when used to condition and bait.

The normal version of devil reverse needs a speed boost, priority buff. It’s complete ass since it’s so slow.

I hope Ex blast gets a buff, I find it useful even in this sorry state we are in however I would love for it to have a lot more juggle potential we should be able to use it like reptiles force ball.

I mean how badass would it be to throw players into ex blast and juggle off that?

Daemos · 2016-11-15T00:13:43.000Z

Ex Blast working like Reptile’s force ball would be a dream come true for me.

And a nightmare for everybody else. Hahahahahahahahaha!

Hmph.

gian2412 · 2016-11-15T00:22:21.000Z

Daemos:

Nothing about SF5 Bison deserves a nerf. Literally, NOTHING. But they will nerf something, to “balance” any buff they give him. It’s fucking retarded, but seriously this character only deserves buffs and tweaks in a buffy direction at this point.

completely agree with you, it’s such a stupid way of balancing “we give you this but we take this away from you”.

Flashy_Nights:

gian2412:

Once again this shows how bad and weak this character is; he inferior in every aspect to Ken and Combofiend agree with me he said a while ago “He has good damage output, he can close distance with the run… he’s just always threatening, he has an invincible reversal, and that is scary because then you’re always hesitating. Crush Counter combos for days,” continued Fiend. “In a game like SF5 that’s extremely tense, and has close quarter combat, the last thing you want is somebody who has an invincible uppercut to come at you.” In other words everything Bison doesn’t have.

If there is something that Capcom might nerf about Bison is Ex.DR and in my opinion should be buff, normal and Ex DR are to slow and is a move that works best when is block! because only then we can continue the pressure but if Bison hit with it we get nothing; imagine if after hit we could S.Hk, C.Mp, Inferno.

I gotta disagree with you thar, on Ex DR being slow. It’s not slow at all everything about the move is pretty fair from the + frames speed and control we have with it. I also think it works best when used to condition and bait.

The normal version of devil reverse needs a speed boost, priority buff. It’s complete ass since it’s so slow.

I hope Ex blast gets a buff, I find it useful even in this sorry state we are in however I would love for it to have a lot more juggle potential we should be able to use it like reptiles force ball.

I mean how badass would it be to throw players into ex blast and juggle off that?

Well we may disagree on Ex.DR; definitely its his best special but is just good not great.

about ExBlast I’ve been saying just that since day one and regular Blast to, I always mention it on my buff list specials need diversity, do different things. Blast for offensive, Sk for pressure, Inferno for defensive

MARTIAN · 2016-11-15T00:28:19.000Z

At least EX Blast juggles with Head Press. Shit is so satisfying.

Thunda · 2016-11-15T07:30:49.000Z

The final round in that video is pretty much how I feel about the match up. Everything is going fine until Ken decides to do something crazy and boom, it’s over. The damage that Ken can get off of the tiniest hit is ridiculous. Shoryu’s after tatsu’s is a big damage thing that they should’ve left with small health/big damage characters like Akuma. Oh and LOL at the headstomp missing at the end.