i havent used low tiers since this game came out. even then i was on strider/gambit/doom.
but anyway whats all this unblockable THC talk? just THC and its magically unblockable? its that simple?
I think the ratio system works ok.
Sure it’s confusing, but it balances everything out.
It seems like Tron’s assist is such a problem, either ban the assist itself or ban her, I know it’s hard to decide.
I personally think Tron can stay, but the team has to be composed of chars that don’t gain godly assets through her assist.
Which is mostly centered around the ratio 2’s or mid/high tiers.
So what if teams were organized by tiers:
Low / mid / mid
low / low/ (low, mid, or high)
That means teams WILL have at least 1 low tier, and it’ll make ppl pick more low tiers so they can have a higher ranked char. Chars with too good of assists would be instantly thrown in the high section.
EDIT: Yeah, what’s that unblockable?
I play BBhood+Juggs and never knew anything like this.
Liston reminded me that Doom/AA run-away will be pretty “fun” for most low tier to deal with. I’d suggest adding Doom to the ban list. Blackheart is arguably horrible too, but it’s slightly less likely that you’ll have timeout victories every time.
Silver Samurai can’t even be thrown when he’s crouching.
All normal throws don’t work, minus Juggernaut.
As far as I’m aware, most command throws still work, like Cyke’s Running throw or Amingo’s Grab Cactus (Supers work too I think). I’ll probably end up testing it later.
EDIT: I was bored so for about an hour I was messing around looking for stuff, aside from unblockable DHC’s and Chaos Dimension and stuff like that, that could beat SilSam’s crouch.
Dan: Otoko Michi
Amingo: Grabbing Cactus
Cyclops: Running Throw
BB Hood: Happy (Hyper?) Apple For You
Son Son: Crawl X Throw (I think I discovered something useless again…)
Psylocke: B+HK (Whiff), Forward, Throw.
Zangief: Every throw he has. The Dash is the exception, it works but you need to be standing right next to SilSam. The Dash does not work if you are Mech Zangief. Throw assist works in either mode.
Spiral: Metamorphosis
Morrigan: Vector Drain (HCB+P)
Tron: Throw assist
Colossus: Regular throws
Cammy: Hooligan throw
Jill: Grab zombie
Rogue: Command throw
He has to be out of hit/block stun for this stuff to work (Except for maybe Amingo’s cactus), especially for the Hyper Apple For You, otherwise it will just throw out the bombs. A weird thing I noticed when I got around to testing Sent is that when I was stomping the “Crouch, All Block” Silver Samurai, he didn’t have to stand to block (Or rather, his sprite didn’t change), it only seemed to do it when I was flying (He stood to block when I was in normal jump mode). However, you still need to stand to block them in actuality.
But other than that, this shit makes him so top tier it’s insane, I’m thinking there’s going to be a god 5 soon :lovin:.
On a side note, I’d like to know about that Jugg and BB Hood unblockable also.
shit is wack
Stuff like Cyke-B, Doom-B, and BH-B shouldn’t even be considered. Semi top tier characters with awesome assists? I don’t really see why anyone WOULDN’T use one of those characters. I think they are OK… if you take away their best assists. So, have Doom, Cyke, and BH available to pick… you just have to use of one the sucky assists. (Doom-Y isn’t even that bad)
Psy-A, Capcom-B, Cammy-A, and Tron-Y probably should be in the same boat. I mean, those are top tier assist characters, for sure. But do taking away their best assists drop them to a ratio 1 or 2? In capcom and Tron’s case… Ratio 1. In Psy or Cammy’s Case… still ratio 2. They’re still really good, and people have had alot of practice with them.
Just my .02
anakaris can lose pretty badly to zoning/keepaway doom/bh
super hard for him to get in
pretty hard for other low/mids also.
even stuff like a keepaway marrow with doom or tron assist…ewww
The Unblockable THC with BB Hood(on point)/Juggernaut can only be done within a certain distance from the opponent. You can easily test this by going to training mode(manual). Have P2 hold back. Get with 2-3 inches(screen wise) of P2. THC should be unblockable.
Is this only arcade/DC version? Or is it in all versions of Marvel?
And, does the THC HAVE to only involve BBHood on point and Jug? Can the third character be included and the unblockable THC to work?
Why do so many people hug Sil Sam’s nuts? I’ve never met anyone that can come close to what i’d consider top tier with him.
As always, that’s just a limitation of who you’ve played against. 
He’s really damaging, the downside is if you cross him up he’s done. Try Silver Sam/Doom/Cyke for starters. He’s also pretty good backed by Sent or Tron.
Anyone got any vids of Low Tier tournies?
No.Yes.Yes.Yes.
I’d be very interested in results, character picks or even if I’m lucky, videos of any tournaments with enforced non-top-tier rules. Over the years (I picked up Marvel on releaseI’ve Doom, Tron, Cyke, BH and Psy would dominate R2 choices, and, if they were R1s, Jugg, Venom, Sakura, Guile and Ken would be common. Dhalsim on either 2 OR 1 would be a good pick too.