Low Tier --> good, can it be done?

How about nerfing the god tier’s?

Like, cut of the mishima’s legs.

I dont belive in low-tier I belive in people playing better DEFENSE with there characters…

QFT. That topic is also worthy of discussion. Any ideas for how we can make Gato less overpowered? Getting rid of his invincible full-screen low-height jump-in move would help.

Your probably talking about taj but from what i heard he doesnt play mewtwo at major tournaments that much. Someone i used to play with called Dire is something like the #1 g&w in the world, he beats top tiers all the time too. Also…whats the name of that japanese guy that played twelve at sbo?

There been a few but one that come to my mind is probably Yamazaki (sp?)

I only play Freeman and Rock in Garou, and Freeman does have a few anti-air options, and you can’t complain about Freeman getting hopped on considering Freeman possibly has one of the best hops in the game with Hop B, which is just gross as hell. hop b, hop b, hop b, etc.

Freeman is missing supers that don’t suck and something that would make him more than one dimensional. But honestly it seems like SNK designed him that way intentionally, cus I know I get chubbed up when I beat People with Freeman’s punk ass.

They made May good and she has been complete trash for a long time in the Guilty Gear series. Many low tiered characters suffer from either high recovery, bad risk -> damage ratio, overall damage output, ease of use, and sometimes defense ratings and the ability to get out of pressure situations.

I thought It was yamachan in the world? or something like that. I saw some vids of him beasting at some ranbats if i recall, he blew thru about 7 people before some guys ibuki put him down. Great Vids!

2i Ibuki was basically Chun with better special moves and mixups. Likewise, giving Elena cancel frames on her c.MK would just make her Chun as well. Three Chuns in one game = snooze. :bluu:

^Based on how a lot of 3S tourneys end up, 1 Chun in one game = snooze. :frowning:

12’s xcopy effect stays until round is over
12’s taunt stay invisible until he is hit or he taunts again (fast recovery)

I always hated the idea of X-Copy in the first place. If you’re gonna just gonna play another character anyway, what’s the point? It would be really annoying, since X-Copied characters can’t be reset. If X-Copy were good, it would just turn him in to Mokujin.

If your going to play in a 3rd Strike tournament and no one uses Chun, use must be playing with scrubs or crackheads.

Twelve also gets a significant damage and defense bonus while x-copied. Probably to compensate for lack of EX moves and supers. So it’s not just for the clone.

I personally kind of like the idea. If you sit down at a cabinet you’re using Twelve, but with x-copy you get to also have a little mini mirror match for the duration of x-copy.

gief in mvc2:

spd does 50% damage and increase range by 5 pixels. NO whiff animation.
fab does 100% damage and has 0 frame startup, increase range by 5 pixels. the speed of his dash during this super is increased 200%, and is given 10 invincibility frames.

increase the speed of his dash, and his air jump grab move.

his lariats go through beams and beam supers.

mech gief takes only 25% damage from moves and retains the same speed as normal gief

gambit, mvc2: easier ways to combo into royal flush

less recovery on RF

give back xvsf version of his jab cajun strike D: (that move was gdlk :o)

if sean had at least ryu’s srk i’d play him. and a little less minus frames on his sa1

I had an idea , but figured i shouldnt give it a thread of its own , as its semi- related.

How would tiering change if you mixed and matched SA\supers ?

Off the top of my head , Sean with Shippu , Akuma with EX , Yun with Seans supers , Twelve with Hugos SA2 , Chun with ST anti-air kicks ( alltho tweaked to have decent hitbox and command input ) , Ryu with 2 stock Denjin , Yang with a slash SA that cancels from normal\ex slashes , Q with Gigas like ( or any grab ) SA. ETC ETC

Would simply giving the bottom tiers a 2stock genei jin make them god tier ?

Theory fighter ftw :rolleyes:

true dat,im a christie player so i should know

3s Alex could be vastly improved by doing 2 minor things. Make his crouching jabs low hits, Alex doesn’t have much of a way to make someone want to duck, jab jab super would do that. Or you could make his low forward cancellable into super. c.short,forward chain combo into super would make his mix up game a ton better. With ways to hit confirm a super with low hits his standing fierce and other things would become much better as well.