Looking for Matte/textured ball tops & button tops

Turtlesoup · 2014-09-12T14:22:05.000Z

MTHopton:

No one said it would be impossible to get a manufacturer to make exactly what you want.
@Darksakul was warning you of the lengths you’d have to go to to get a well respected arcade part manufacturer such as sanwa to produce an order for you.

Insulting other users when they are simply trying to provide you with help serves no purpose other than to create hostility which is not what anyone wants.

I wish you the best of luck in getting what you want, but you would do well to recognise when people are trying to help you rather than pad out their post count.

Enough with these off topic posts, please. If you are gonna make these type of moral compass post’s you should really read the entire thread and you will clearly see I was being insulted and patronized just because I disagreed with certain suggestions, wanted to order custom parts and seem more interested in buying a custom part rather than making something of my own. I think a lot failed to realize what I was asking for and in the end, me trying to produce this on my own will most likely cost a lot more then me buying the parts from a custom shop or if this existed from a store.

Darksakul · 2014-09-12T14:44:17.000Z

Hell yea I speak for everyone. If you looked, I don’t need to pad my post count, I authored a few of the guides here. Also if you haven’t acted like a idiot. You might have noticed I did drop the names of 2 users who makes their own ball tops. I even asked one if it’s possible for him to make. Plus we got more than a few members here with some industry contacts.

Chananigans · 2014-09-12T16:09:55.000Z

The attitude came out really quickly. This forum is not NASIOC or RX8CLUB.COM, tech talk is full of extremely knowledgeable members, extremely helpful. I actually know some small batch vendors that would probably do this for you, but I’m disinclined to assist you because you started with the insult hurling.

ihopeidie · 2014-09-12T20:55:58.000Z

yikes, I feel like an idiot batting for turtlesoup now.

(its 2014, no one gives a shit about post counts.)

Darksakul · 2014-09-12T22:36:20.000Z

ihopeidie:

yikes, I feel like an idiot batting for turtlesoup now.

(its 2014, no one gives a shit about post counts.)

its okay @ihopeidie, you did what you though was right by sticking up for someone who you felt was being picked on.

homerjwho · 2014-09-12T22:53:09.000Z

Turtlesoup:

Does sanwa denshi.co take special orders, has anyone tried?

Turtlesoup:

Darksakul:

Turtlesoup:

I wouldn’t mind buying a gross or two from a special order if that what it takes, it’s not like I cant sell them right? Because the internet completely hinders the possibility of me doing that right, fuck off internet attention whores who need to pad their post count.

1 Gross or 12 Dozen or 144 is not enough. We are talking a custom order of THOUSANDS, more on the lines of 10,000 Ball tops must be ordered.
You got enough Cash to finance 10,000 custom ball tops? And that assuming they will even listen to you.

You’re so narrow minded, it doesn’t have to be sanwa or a major manufacturer. Stop padding your post cost.

Dude asks if Sanwa do special orders. Gets pissy when the question is answered and followed up. Ironically rants about ‘internet attention whores’. I feel trolled.

Moonchilde · 2014-09-13T01:21:05.000Z

Turtlesoup:

Also if the aluminum balls have some sort of texture to them I would most likely give it a try.

The bat tops, not the ball tops. I can confirm the bat tops are slightly textured and matte. The ball tops, I am not sure, and I don’t think they are textured. This particular brand sold by Focus Attack and Paradise Arcade (the same exact product, but Paradise also has other aluminum products which are not to be confused with) are Sanwa bat top “knock offs” in aluminum. Same shape, same texture.

Just so there is no misinformation nor anywhere to point blame, can someone confirm the ball tops for me please?

Darksakul · 2014-09-13T04:30:35.000Z

I wonder how well existing ball tops take to sand blasting.
or sand and paint with a matte finish.

I know a wood or derlin ball top can be made on a lathe

There also the prospect of 3D printing

TRiXWoN · 2014-09-13T10:54:08.000Z

Darksakul:

I wonder how well existing ball tops take to sand blasting.
or sand and paint with a matte finish.

I know a wood or derlin ball top can be made on a lathe

There also the prospect of 3D printing

Matte Paint would work for the balltop I think. Better than just sanding. 3D printing some button plungers would be awesome… DAMN now I want a 3D printer even more than before.

Moonchilde · 2014-09-13T13:20:23.000Z

You’d still have to sand the ball top for the matte paint or clear coat to stick anyway.

Raij1n · 2014-09-13T16:39:23.000Z

Get a thin matte film you can stick to the surface.

http://m.globalsources.com/gsol/I/PVC-film/p/sm/1057680130.htm

Or a thin malleable mesh you could wrap the ball in.

Think outside the box. Look for textured films. might even be able to get se sick unique buttons depending on the extent of your search. Either of those things could work to achieve the effect.

I am impressed with the amount of sweat you generate playing with your stick. Clearly I’m doing it wrong.

Darksakul · 2014-09-13T23:46:21.000Z

Hey who has a sand blaster or have access to one?
Sand blast some ball tops for us and see how it works.

Nobus3r1 · 2014-09-14T01:11:32.000Z

Moonchilde:

You’d still have to sand the ball top for the matte paint or clear coat to stick anyway.

I hope that would work better than my efforts of using vinyl dye on a Sanwa bat top. Sanded the bat top. 3-4 layers (I forget) of vinyl dye. Final coat of acrylic lacquer. 2 months of regular use before my acidic sweat has caused the paint to begin flaking off. -_-

Darksakul · 2014-09-14T01:16:28.000Z

Wait why are we continuing the discussion if the OP was a complete dick to everyone?

Let that ass-hat figure the shit out on their own.

Raij1n · 2014-09-14T01:35:31.000Z

Disassemble a couple shik quartos. Embed them in the buttons. Textured. Blood clots will eventually sediment into a nice matte finish

Moonchilde · 2014-09-14T02:02:53.000Z

Nobus3r1 ver. 2.0:

I hope that would work better than my efforts of using vinyl dye on a Sanwa bat top. Sanded the bat top. 3-4 layers (I forget) of vinyl dye. Final coat of acrylic lacquer. 2 months of regular use before my acidic sweat has caused the paint to begin flaking off. -_-

Hmm, then it wasn’t real vinyl dye or you didn’t sand enough of the finish off to get to the actual plastic inside. Either way, most vinyl “dye” these days is just a thin paint. Real vinyl dye actually soaks into the plastic. I’m not even sure if they’re selling it anymore. I wonder why no one is using it? Maybe because it was too good a product and chips & flakes require new cans of paint to be purchased to fix up the chip marks.

Darksakul:

Wait why are we continuing the discussion if the OP was a complete dick to everyone?

Let that ass-hat figure the shit out on their own.

I think it’s evolved a bit beyond him. We’re actually having a good discussion here and I think quite a few of us are interested in it. Most of us have ignored him beyond a certain point anyway.

I’m more interested in tech talk lol.

NENDO · 2014-09-14T02:23:16.000Z

Still a good convo as far as tech is concerned even though it was started by a tool bag with no tool bag.

Darksakul · 2014-09-14T02:30:23.000Z

Someone on tech talk made their own transparent or glow in the dark (I forgot which) plastic bat top once using a existing Sanwa bat top to make the mold.
And I seen some clever stuff past members did with random items found, wood drawer pulls and even a epoxy filled Pez dispenser head.

Turtlesoup · 2014-09-14T03:29:46.000Z

Darksakul:

Wait why are we continuing the discussion if the OP was a complete dick to everyone?

Let that ass-hat figure the shit out on their own.

You seriously a special kind of stupid. You took offense to a post that was clearly not directed at you, it was to those who patronized. But you took offense so I guess you were part of it. Also, way to go on back pedaling on your little threat, I knew you where addicted to posting, padding your count and are one of those simpletons who like to read what they write, just like those people who like to hear them selves talk. There is also some serious double standards going on around here and this forum is rather toxic. Idiot’s like @freedomgundam needs to stop being so entitled about their shitty suggestions, it was a terrible suggestion, that was obtuse, unperceptive and ignorant. really should refrain from posting bad suggestions especially if you can’t handle criticism.

sidenote:Really, I don’t know what the butthurt was about because I really didnt knock his suggestion that hard, gave constructive criticism and tried to explained my self further, but nope the idiots got super butthurt and thought it was cool to be insulting and patronize. Anyways feel free to talk amongst your selves and leave little pre-school verbal jabs that I will never read. Only here to turn off email notifications.

FreedomGundam · 2014-09-14T04:16:55.000Z

@Turtlesoup‌
Whoa whoa.
I really have no additional suggestions to add, hence why I haven’t added anything, but I feel like I do need to defend myself here.
As far as I can tell, nowhere was I obtuse, nor was it a terrible suggestion. Nowhere was I offensive. If my suggestion didn’t suit your needs, that’s one thing. But calling me an idiot? Entitled? Can’t handle criticism? I have no idea where you’re pulling that out from.
I still stand by my solution being a valid one, but if it’s not 100% what you need, it’s all I can bring to the table.