Hey is anyone here playing KoF XIII?

In all honesty, from what I’ve learned when it came to trying to learn Street Fighter (and it’s probably the number one reason why I failed to get any better and keep up), guitar, dance, anything. It’s not only how much training you do, but it’s how you train that changes how well you do. At this point my advice is talk to those that have been doing better than you in tournament situations and see how they train, what is the difference between you and them. What makes them succeed better than you. Considering what I heard from you when it came to you learning 4 and refusing to learn how to tech throws, something so simple but effective to have in your game, that showed me how you wanted to just ditch the basics of that game and learn more advanced stuff. If you go ahead and do that, you won’t succeed. It’s like me wanting to learn Stairway to Heaven, but not practicing my scales and allowing my fingers to eventually reach that level.

The 2nd thing when it comes to Marvel, as Joe said, you play with your food too much. Yes, sometimes you’re style combos are pretty damn impressive and I myself sit back and go damn he just did that to me, but when it comes to a tournament, specifically Street Fighter is that you gain more respect for winning tournaments rather than just styling opponents. If you have the chance to kill your opponent, kill your fucking opponent. Do what it takes to win, even if it means taking a bnb option that doesn’t look as impressive as a combo that you have a 50% chance of actually pulling off. If you want to win evo, you will do what it takes to win EVO. If you want it, you will go out of your way to fucking get it. It’s all about mindset, how you train, the amount of effort you’re willing to put in, and taking all those losses and learning from them.

Mind you, this advice is a mixture of what I learned from learning other hobbies and trying to relate it to the level of Street Fighter. By all means, I was never that great as an SF player, let alone a Marvel player. But I figured I’d toss in some words based on what I’ve seen and what I can at least try to give as advice.

When it came to the first gen wave of SF’s scene, Mihai was always right when it came to how we trained and how we took the game. This is why we never got better as a scene and to be honest, Mihai’s post was accurate and I don’t disagree one bit. I see how these guys train and I see the look in their eyes when they fight opponents, that hunger to get better. Corry has had a couple times where he didn’t do so well and questioned his ability to continue on (i.e. T11) but he always comes back with new knowledge and a new attitude to kick ass and get better. He’s always talking about the game and the knowledge he’s gained in just a single week. Monney is always down to just play, go to tournaments, take in what he learns and keep improving. He knows what games he likes and he sticks to them. Joe always had a fire when it came to Marvel. Every time I play him, he has a new setup. Still the same bnbs and combos that he has, but always finds new ways to set up those combos and just own. At every tournament, he takes his losses, thinks what did I do wrong, what can I do to get better, and is always willing to share his knowledge and learn from others. Alvin. He’s just Alvin. But he’s always been solid with characters that he has fun playing with, rather than aiming for top tier. I’ve always respected him for that. Mind you, this is from what I’ve seen when it came to talking with these individuals and just watching them play.

Can you see the differences between what I mentioned and what you posted? This is what separates the men from the boys essentially. Hell it’s why I stayed on the bottom of London’s scene for a while after it started and it’s why I knew that I could take the time improving in other things I cared to improve in and just keep SF at a fun level, it wasn’t serious enough for me. So don’t focus on how much you train, learn from your fellow London players, learn from tournaments, ask people what you can do to train better. If you really want it that bad, then go fucking get it. Don’t live in an illusion.

TL;DR: How you train, not how much you train, keep an eye on fundamentals, learn from others, change your mindset. Mihai’s post = accurate lol

avarice: Next tournament (are you going to heroes?) I wanna get some more games in with you. I need to learn how to fight Zero lol

Stephan, I agree with most things there but a few things:
-I never said I didn’t want to learn to tech throws. I even said I went into training mode for hours specifically to learn to tech them. I recorded the dummies doing different blockstrings into throws with probably a dozen characters. I got to a point where I teched every single throw. What I did say is that when it came match time I just couldn’t tech them, so there was an obvious problem beyond training. I never cared that much about getting better at SF specifically because I just didn’t like the game that much. Even while I was playing it I was still playing things like Smash or LoL more competitively and enjoying them more. Marvel is the most fun I’ve had competing in anything and that right there makes a world of difference when comparing to how I approach SF.

-Joe can vouch that I wasn’t playing with my food in tourney on Saturday. I’ve been to plenty of tourneys that you guys haven’t seen me play at and I was never kidding when I say I take it serious in tourneys. Practicing the hard shit in casuals makes it so that the intermediate stuff that’s still tourney-viable actually becomes the easy stuff.

-Keep in mind I couldn’t lose a single round without getting sent to losers bracket or eliminated, and I ended up losing my Zero to confusing colours on the screen (2 red Zeros on the screen, 2 assists, and no idea who is hitting who or what side each other is on). Once again Joe can vouch for that one.

That’s the same day as my company Christmas party so it’s unlikely. I would like to play you some more though (I’m always up to play anyone really). I’m going to try to make it out to Sunday Waterloo casuals from now on, but besides that you’ll see me again by Rise of the Underdogs 2 at the very latest. My first advice to you is the exact same I gave Drew: watch my buster charge. When I’m not glowing orange you have a lot more freedom to put pressure on me because with 830k health I’m pretty afraid to get hit by anything. Once I do have the charge though I have probably the most commanding move in the game available so you need to bait it out.

Hey Joe and Alvin:
Avengers Assemble!
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Pretty much my biggest take away from Mihai was this, win on a fundamentals level, then worry about the other stuff.

I believe I am the only one at this point that has bought it and I have not really played it too much, because of the grind with UMvC for the tourny this week. After I cure my addiction to Skyrim, I will be picking this up and playing it more.

He is very right in what he says. I might not agree with the whole idea of dropping everything in your social life just for Marvel, but if that is what you feel you have to do then try it. If it is not working, ask Joe/Alvin/whoever for suggestions. But:

[quote=“AvariceX, post: 6184298, member: 10491” I never cared that much about getting better at SF specifically because I just didn’t like the game that much. [/quote]

If that was/is the case, then you have be careful about asking Corry to help you then. These types of mixed messages put up barriers with your first resource: us here in London. Being honest about your expectations with others allows them to honestly help you better.

To be honest I’m really conflicted about SF. I love fighting games in general because I love the form of competition they breed. But I like games like Marvel, BlazBlue, or even Melee more than SF. I send mixed messages about SF because I’m not even sure how I really feel about the game (why does this sound like I’m talking about an ex-girlfriend lol). Either way, I’ve put a lot of time into SF and I can’t stand to play something that much without trying to be competitive in it, but I have to focus on Marvel.

It’s also not that I entirely dropped my social life for Marvel. I just only know you guys in London. I usually don’t have money to go out anyway because it’s either spent on school loans, my car, rent, or going to tournaments. I know Art & Ben (not Meljin), as well as a few others in London but they live on the other side of town and even then I usually only see them to play Marvel.

Jeff: I’m willing to try KOF13, but given what I’ve just laid out it’s unlikely I’ll put much time into it until after EVO at the earliest, and by then KOF17 will be out.

I’ll play any game as long if Guy is in it or any one that has the same chain combo. ( Probably Maki ). I’m starting entering UMVC3 so might take long to get use to.

P.S. So which one is who? Is Hobo_Joe = Corry? or Joe? And the other? xD

Ah, so you can use your secret tech for chain combo goodness? :stuck_out_tongue:

And Hobo is Corry.

K so I just bought Marvel. Prepare for the 2nd coming.

fuck

Are you confused? that’s christ.

LMFAO this just made my day, thanks Mihai

To make things less confusing, i will now be using this account. Hobo-joe is a person is probably dead now irl from poor life choices.

I just burst out laughing at all of this. Priceless hahah

Damn it Corry, at least make your name Hobo-Corry. The power of the Hobo shall never die!!!

Jesus christ, I look away from the thread for a day and there’s walls of text and anger and he/she said everywhere

FTFY.

Joe this is the elevator combo I told you about:

impact

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Alvin:

Odin’s beer

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Where’s a combo for ME lol.

I’ve been programming like mad lately so my MvCing is low atm. I’m hoping to get it all done before noon tommorow to play all day