Light-up on activation button mod tutorial

Ok, I’ll move the LED power line to the Cthulhu screw terminals. I just thought it didn’t matter where I get power.

Ok, so here, I wired the buttons and directions to the Cthulhu screw terminals. MadCatz is wired to the unlabeled points on the Cthulhu.

LEDs are now wired to the Cthulhu screw terminals and they get power from the VCC screw terminal on the Cthulhu.

I drew both LED options, with and without inverters.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8250/006dualpcbplusimpfinalp.th.png

Now for the inevitable questions :slight_smile:

Is the wiring correct for both options?

and

What is the practical difference between both options? Is there any electrical issue I should be worried about with option 2?

I see how option 1 neatly separates LEDs from the rest of the wiring, but option 2 really is so much simpler to make.

Hi,

I’ve finished finally a little PCB for the led inverter mod. I call this PCB

LIM
Led Inverter Mod size is 22mm x 22mm
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YLXgzxS8cEc/SlbPqmsayJI/AAAAAAAAAqY/YFXzaVg8J1c/s320/CIMG0798.JPG

Currently LIM is naked/unassembled. But this will change very soon.

LIM protects your PCB against your LED Mods and takes care about bullet proof signals. But this is nothing new in this thread. Leave me a message if you’re interested.

Bye,

Ben

More infos…

Very like.
Good stuff.

I will buy your PCB when available.

Hey, just wanted to let anyone who may be nervous about drilling into the button to place the LED inside that I found it actually isn’t necessary. The little notches in the PS-14-KN microswitches are actually big enough to slide LED leads through and still be able to place the plunger inside without affecting the feel of the buttons. Didn’t see that mentioned in the topic, figured I’d pass the info along.

TingBoy did the same.
He put the LED inside Seimitsu PS-14-K, then had the lead go out the holes.

He mentioned it on first page.
Laugh.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YLXgzxS8cEc/SjvNu-7LS-I/AAAAAAAAApI/-PInYf4jdeQ/s320/CIMG0745.JPG

it’s just fun :slight_smile:

Hi guys, Id like to try this down the road.

Id like to know, and I promise I tried to find the answer on my own to no avail, Id like to know if the Madcatz TE stock PCB is common ground?

Also, anyone else selling drilled shafts and ball tops? The person recommended in this link seems to be out of business.

Thanks!

Doh, the offical Madcatz thread seems to have the answer already, I apologize.

Q: Are the PCBs in the sticks Common Ground?
A: Yes.

Yes, Luigi seem to be down; his website. :sad:
But Franco on BYOAC and Kaytrim’s Kustom on SRK still do.

Did you just drill a perfectly good/rare PG-14-K?

thank you kindly

I have almost all the colors that Seimitsu PS-14-K available.
Missing White.

THEJAPINO bought PS-14-K White before I could. :sad:
It was either eight or sixteen of them.
I forgot.

not only one :wink:

I’m just about to start the wiring for the stick I’m building, and I just wanted to make sure I understood some things about these LED circuits.

Is there a reason the diagrams on the first page include a switch between the battery and the VCC on the inverter? I’m planning on powering mine with the PCB, and I was going to leave out the switch, because I can’t imagine ever wanting to turn them off. If I leave the controller plugged into the XBox, though, will all the lights be on constantly, even when the XBox is off?

Also, is there any reason not to put an “always-on” green LED behind my XBox button? The only problem with it that I can think of is that the LED would burn out–do they have a long enough lifetime if they’re constantly on?

Thanks to a lot of the posters in this thread–its a great learning tool! I’ll post pics when I’m finally finished. Building the case took a lot longer than I thought, but it’s already a very pretty-looking joystick even before the LEDs are ready. I’m getting excited!

edit: Also, the search function isn’t working real well and I can’t find the answer: Why am I doing the inverter method rather than wiring the LED directly to the signal wire?

I built a prototype circuit yesterday with the hex inverter and couldn’t get it to work properly. I’m pretty sure it was just a broken connection somewhere, though–I’m TERRIBLE at soldering to that tiny little breadboard. How on earth do you guys get such tiny, precise little joints?

Also, I rigged up one of the LEDs with the simpler non-inverter circuit, and it wasn’t nearly as bright as I wanted it, with a 220 ohm resistor. Is it safe to go lower than 220? I’m not sure why it was so dim. I’ve seen PCB-powered LED sticks that are really bright.

Hey guys, hoping to find a little help/clarification here.

I haven’t so much as touched electronics for ages with the exception of component swapping on the many computers I’ve had over the years. I thought it might be a good exercise to make a concept drawing of the switchless circuit on a protoboard. So…

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac82/v_m_a/th_LightUpPCB.jpg

I have since put the circuit together on the board, and it seems to work as intended, except for one detail. For testing purposes, I have a regulated power supply running at 4.5v as proxy for the cthulhu’s Vcc and button outputs, and the second power source is 3 AA batteries and switched (on-off).

My question: when the cthulhu proxy is powered up, the LEDs activate on button press regardless of the on/off position of the battery source…I’m assuming I’ve missed on the wiring somewhere. Would anyone care to shed some light?:slight_smile:

Thanks

V.

Alright, it was in fact a resistor that wasn’t in the right place on the physical circuit. Now, I recall seeing in the thread that the V+ of the battery should connect to the Vcc of the controller pcb. I did that…now, I noticed that the LEDs activate on button press even when the controller isn’t plugged into the console and multimeter shows a current of about 1.5mA…is this normal?

V.

Has anyone tried using the LED mod with only a single sixaxis battery instead of multiple batteries inside a wireless joystick?

Will this MS Wireless 8 button schematic work?

I made this schematic hoping if some of you may notice anything wrong with it.

I am wanting to get 8 buttons working on a MS Wireless common ground working, and yes the triggers too. I was thinking of using seperate power sources for both, but know nothing about the seperate common line for the triggers. Has this been attempted before?

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww301/rtdzign/Misc/MS_wireless_LedMod_8_button.jpg

The only problem I see is that the switch you have planned may not shut off the LEDs. This has been tried and it failed. You need to use additional diodes. There is a diagram back in this thread somewhere showing how to wire up for an on/off switch.

Michael

Ninja Edit: Here is the post with the diagram.

Thanks Kaytrim,

I think I understand. Gonna work on another schematic.

Edit: After working on the schematic, it looks it’s maybe not worth the trouble.