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I am down for an ssf4 casuals night next week. If it happens, count me in…

Hey everyone,

We’re taking a break next week for sure, no casual night unfortunately. We’ll be back June 23! Practice up til then good sirs!

roger that.

Ah, right on. See you guys on the 23rd then!

Hello guys!

for the 23rd, i was wondering if i could grudge match my friend on the stream, we want to have a “1v1 tournament” against eachother and weve been rivals since the first SF4 came out.

and also, how do grudge matches normally work? are they first to 10?

and we actually wanna make it more interesting, the entry for our “1v1 tournament” is gonna be 50 bucks now

In order to get on the stream man, you’ve got to work your way up from a station and make it to A! All the people who play on the stream won their pool the week before, and get to play for the first to 5 the following week. You’ve got to earn it first! Good luck!

gaaaaaaaaah okay fine i guess, i just thought i could since DJ Divine and Gaoser MM’ed on the stream a few months ago when i went :confused:

for those who showed up at ttf last night
3v3 results
http://shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=240387&p=9047102#post9047102
http://shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=240387&p=9047102#post9047102
http://shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=240387&p=9047102#post9047102

things are different now. back in shgl’s garage, the stream was used for grudge matches and a set exhibition of first to 10 for the day. but now at dnb’s the stream station is for top round robin players of last week to compete in a bracket, plus first to 5 for last week’s top 2 players. dunno if the MM is still possible.

Just a Reminder:
There will be no WNF this week in observance of E3/Devastation.

We’ll be back next week June 23!

P.S.
The current training regimen is one of many I have in store.
Extensive training regimen in the works. My advice to you is to KNOW YOUR OPPONENT OVER KNOWING THE MATCH UPS!

PRACTICE UP AND SEE YOU NEXT WEEK!!

I was advised to make a suggestion/feedback about our Weds Night Fights up to date.

If you guys have anything on your mind on how to improve our current Weds Night Fights training, I’m all ears.

Thanks!

what can be done about the power level? (electricity) how can we make it OVER 9000!

matchup lesson station with a top player? if anyone’s having trouble with a character, maybe a top player who specializes in that character can play a group of people who needs help with that matchup. i suppose it’d have to be a pretty common matchup, like ryu, balrog, cammy, etc. just so it’s not only 1 person who wants to play in that station. :sweat:

Plenty of folks are gonna have some good suggestions for you Alex so it’s great you’re open to hear them.

Me, I’m not often able to make these but I like what you’ve got going. Only thing I could add is bring back the ban matches… though its a very different venue to do such a thing.

We’re in talks about upgrading the power, until this issue is resolved, we’re going to consolidate stations. We know our limit now.

Don’t we do that already? =)
Nobody really has to share anything in competitive gaming, it’s natural because we all want to win.
Some of us will help the ones that desperately need it because we feel they wont beat us anyways, which is normal too.
My advice for this is to really understand why you are losing before you figure out how to fight the match up.
Street Fighter requires you to practice techniques which you have to learn: reaction, patience, zoning, execution, etc.
If you are lacking in the fundamentals, then you have to take a step back before you can truly play the match up.

I’m a very nice guy if you haven’t already noticed haha. Everyone should at least suggest something. Who knows, maybe you’re suggestion might help us all =)
Ban matches was ahead of its time. Right now we need as many players as we can get, and the current method is doing well.

A gaming community with no asshole is almost like a story with no antagonist…

… haven’t been involved in what you guys are doing, just been keeping my ear to the ground, and I’ve yet to hear of a super jerk on the rise… which is dissapointing :sad:

you’re right. blindly tackling a matchup practice wouldn’t help… i was basing my suggestion off of 1-on-1 crack sessions, which did help me in the past, but i see now that it’s not really about the number of matches played, or simply playing a “character xxxx specialist”. :wgrin:

My Two Cents

I’m sorry for the wall of text below, but hear me out.

When WNF first started, we had a bunch of scattered little stations which people would walk in and out of, and play a few matches here and there. They were casuals in name and in identity.

When we got to the station A-F, we got a little bit more organized, but as Valle said when we were there-- there needed to be a lot more focus than was given.

When we got to Ban matches, people got their shit together(most people anyway), and took things seriously. Or at least there was a little bit more of a “no more bullshit” tone present at every session.

So we came back, and for the next few months we were professional, even though we were still playing out of a garage. There were still problems because we were crowded, the set ups took a little while to go through before you got a turn, and we lost the station A- F feel. Even a few weeks after super we were still in that mode.

So flash forward to now. What you guys have done is step up the organizational and professional aspects to a level which I really didn’t think anyone expected. You pretty much rectified most of the complaints and critiques labeled against you and now we have a fairly solid venue every wednesday night(not that SHGL’s garage wasn’t legit. Because it was.)

I think in order to recognize what you need to correct, you need to look at what LEVEL UP LIVE is hoping to accomplish. So to my knowledge, and you can correct me if I’m wrong, the goal of WnF’s is this:

A) Level up Southern California to a degree in which we are significant if not the primary contenders for top placings in tournaments. Bring our player base up to the point where we’re, so to say(and forgive the expression because it’s kind of shitty but I can’t really think of anything else right now) "On the map."
B) Widen the player base of SSFIV from a competitive standpoint, and bring more people into the world of competitive gaming. Simultaneously, introduce it in such a way where it is both a welcoming and sobering experience A.K.A. "Going tournaments, playing at majors and all is amazing… but it takes a lot of hard work."
SIDE-B) Push that player base up to POINT A :wink:
C) With the stream, introduce a legitimate view of Street Fighter as a competitive exercise-- and help widen it’s appeal professionally to help it gain a sense of(I’ve used this word too much but screw it) legitimacy.
D) And maybe this is just a side note for A (I should have planned this message out better :/) Eliminate the fears of the competitive circuit in most players, and instill a sense of consistency and confidence in the player base.

To be honest, I think most of your goals here are going fairly well Alex. and if there’s any criticisms, I think preparedness amongst a good number of newcomers is an issue. Especially ones playing new characters. The way you’ve structured WnF’s training regimen is like a “Tournament simulation”. To be treated seriously. Now the problem is, when we were doing round robin, somebody loses 1 or 2 games, and the sense of urgency they had drops dramatically. They aren’t getting to Station A, that’s fine. They’ll just pick it up next week and do better. And what do they do to prepare for next week? They train a little. But they still walk in on Wednesday with aspects of their game needing work in one area or another, or incomplete. They’re missing certain combos, they don’t know how to deal with certain strategy’s, and they stick to textbook play after they eat a combo to the point where their predictability rises dramatically. You’ve addressed it before but it hasn’t been corrected.

And then on top of that we have the new characters. Believe it or not, I stilll see some people treating Super like it’s a “new game” and not taking these match ups seriously enough. I remember a friend of ours who goes here every week(I’ll keep him nameless, but I’m sure a good number of people remember seeing this) who played Balrog against an Ibuki. He got hit by the Ultra 1 I think twice in one round. He didn’t press a button or do anything.
Full damage… he lost because of it. He came up to me and said “Man, that Ultra is ridiculous.“
I told him:
“You know you can jump out of it, right?”
”… You can jump out of it? Are you serious?”

^^ This is kind of unacceptable. Another example? Last week I got my ass trashed by a Balrog. I know you can throw him out of his ex Dash punches. I know after a whiffed upper you can do anything you like. But I walked in last week going "Okay, well, I don’t think my reaction timing for it is perfect, so It’s cool, I’ll just work around that."
NO. Before I walked through that door I should have known how to deal with that match up. I got trashed the first round, and the second round I got close to winning and lost because of it. And I can walk away and go “Pffft… I didn’t know the matchup, it’s okay… I’ll be ready for a tournament setting” or “I know what I need to do, it’ll be okay.” but that doesn’t make what I just did acceptable.

So many of us lose to Cody’s and Juri’s and Adon’s and act like it’s not really a problem because we just “didn’t know the match-up.” And there are so many people who PLAY those character who conversely, when they lose, say “Well, these characters are new, so obviously we’ll have problems.”

No. That’s not okay, and that’s still a prevalent attitude with a lot of people that has to die. WnF’s is a training session, but that doesn’t mean it’s where you go to do your homework. You have to work outside of this session to get up to snuff, and go there to test what you’ve learned. It’s your pop quiz every single week telling you whether or not what you’re doing is sufficient enough in a tournament setting. You can’t be that one kid who walks into class on the day of the test without studying and acting like he’s going to get an A. Oh sure, maybe he’ll pass, but will he be the best he can be? Would he have done much better if he took the time to study? There’s no doubt.

Maybe I should get off my soapbox, but this is something I just notice amongst people, and it’s kind of killing their game. Alex is giving you guys all the tools you need to place at tournaments… now you do your end of the bargain and maybe it’ll start working in your favor.

Yeah. That’s pretty much my two cents. Sorry for the wall of text.

I can yell at people for being ignorant. For a minimal fee!