Lei Wulong Stance Tech Thread

H1gg1n5 · 2012-08-07T10:04:20.000Z

Can you guys put up a video of you doing this? I’m have tried and tried it and I have yet to see any armor on any of the punches.

The_Big_Boss · 2012-08-07T10:19:17.000Z

I like this. I like this a lot.

Also watching the online matches uploaded by ssf4evo, the Lei in them does the first two hits of razor rush, dragon palm, tiger palm. The damage is pretty meh from a tag in and the positioning is about the same as a lotus followup would be, and it doesn’t leave you in any stances.

Yeah I been working on that too. That tag in combo can set up alot. Im thinking the Tiger stance might work well against Gief.

The_Big_Boss · 2012-08-07T10:26:11.000Z

I like this. I like this a lot.

Also watching the online matches uploaded by ssf4evo, the Lei in them does the first two hits of razor rush, dragon palm, tiger palm. The damage is pretty meh from a tag in and the positioning is about the same as a lotus followup would be, and it doesn’t leave you in any stances.

Oh yeah, If you hold forward after doing the dragon palm, you can go into tiger stance. So if your facing Ryu, most likely you can use that stance to deflect the hadoken away with the tiger palm.

H1gg1n5 · 2012-08-07T10:43:04.000Z

Ok I’ve done it but damn it’s too situational to use, if the jump kick is done early, you get hit. I have only been able to get it to work on very deep jump ins.

I’d like to see some hit/hurt box stuff for Lei.

Disaster_FX · 2012-08-07T11:15:07.000Z

Oh yeah, If you hold forward after doing the dragon palm, you can go into tiger stance. So if your facing Ryu, most likely you can use that stance to deflect the hadoken away with the tiger palm.

See THAT makes sense. I like that too. Fuck I love Lei. SO MUCH SHIT TO DO.

Swoops · 2012-08-07T11:48:19.000Z

Can you guys put up a video of you doing this? I’m have tried and tried it and I have yet to see any armor on any of the punches.

Try setting up a dummy Lei to do [DRG] MP xx f+PP then walk forward just a bit and use [T] LP. When you try to jab him the armor should kick in.

Seems like it has very limited armor frames at the very beginning, but the punches push back really far on block. Could be useful just to dissuade reversals on wake up. What’s the info on tiger palm armor/invincibility?

The_Big_Boss · 2012-08-07T13:11:57.000Z

Try setting up a dummy Lei to do [DRG] MP xx f+PP then walk forward just a bit and use [T] LP. When you try to jab him the armor should kick in.

Seems like it has very limited armor frames at the very beginning, but the punches push back really far on block. Could be useful just to dissuade reversals on wake up. What’s the info on tiger palm armor/invincibility?

I was playing around with Tiger Palm and It can be used as an AA or a projectile reflector. But once you do that you will automatically leave that stance.

H1gg1n5 · 2012-08-07T13:47:03.000Z

Just noticed that if you’re looking for a reset, or a 50/50 on your opponents wake up and get a cr.hp > comet kick you can go into back stance combo with the hp > mp > lk > lp TC and hold forward which puts you into the drunken stance for a guess on their wake up. The reset if successful does similar dmg compared to other back stance combos and does more if you go into the crane TC with the follow up… This is a damn near kill if they guess wrong two times…

hackstermatrix · 2012-08-07T23:29:49.000Z

I like this. I like this a lot.

Also watching the online matches uploaded by ssf4evo, the Lei in them does the first two hits of razor rush, dragon palm, tiger palm. The damage is pretty meh from a tag in and the positioning is about the same as a lotus followup would be, and it doesn’t leave you in any stances.

Isn’t D.Spite > Tiger Palm corner only?

hackstermatrix · 2012-08-07T23:40:46.000Z

When you say doing Razor into a stance than a TC from stance nets you more damage, do you mean to say that most TCs can combo from Razor after the stance change?

What are these “stance change mixup options” I hear about on oki? I can think of Drunken mids for an obvious one and little else:
crane for auto-c.ounter low or attempt a jump counter yourself, DRG st.mpxx>PP for frametrap, tiger if armor works?

You might also not be done with the panther section in the razor section: it says “you can also use it”

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[]I meant Stance target combos do more damage than Razor so there’s more damage potential.
[]As for mixups since stance changes are so slow and SFXT is a down+back game the best thing is to go for Drunken overheads and if they start blocking high go for the :lk:> :mp:> :hk: as it hits low and you can go into crane from there since Crane also does farily well vs Down back. What’s more Crane can go into Back Turn which can go back into Drunken, it’s one of the stance cycles I’m doing diagrams for, think I’ll stop procastinating and make them today.
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fatboy · 2012-08-08T04:13:56.000Z

I started to work on this last weekend. But, all of you guys beat me to creating a thread about all the different stances and thier properties. :tup: So here is a quick easy flow chart. Use hackmatrix’s info above for the exact sequences.

Special notes:

You can cancel into his “back-turned” stance from the first hit of his DP and from his forward flip.
Open stance = Normal stance.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4214/presentation1wm.jpg

hackstermatrix · 2012-08-08T05:44:16.000Z

Wow this is great! Putting this in the first post if you don’t mind.

fatboy · 2012-08-08T10:08:33.000Z

Wow this is great! Putting this in the first post if you don’t mind.

Yea, no sweat. Happy to contribute. :tup:

The_Lost_Prophet · 2012-09-04T20:39:33.000Z

I really want to try to bait people using play dead, I wish you could use an input to get to it.

GenUser · 2013-04-02T00:36:27.000Z

How accurate is first post POST 2013 Launch? Thinking about printing this.

Piepmatz · 2013-04-02T16:38:17.000Z

I checked it briefly.

Some of the info is still accurate, some is wrong from the start (e.g. Tiger moving in bursts), some is not true since 2013 (e.g. Dragon best AA stance normals [Those probably go to [DRK] mk and [BACK] hk now because of invincibility and accessibility]) and the charts leave out some information here and there.

Not trying to downplay the stuff above, but it definitely shows age. However, it should work fine as a general overview. Just remember to search for more, don´t rely on it blindly

GenUser · 2013-04-02T17:46:49.000Z

Gotcha, I’ll just peruse then, shame it was very nicely laid out, maybe it’s worth updating

Turbo · 2013-04-05T20:58:23.000Z

I just noticed that in panther stance, you can move under shoto projectiles if you move forward, walking up lowers his hitbox apparently

Piepmatz · 2013-04-06T02:18:52.000Z

Yup, thats a great tool to have. Does not work for really low shots though, definitely walked into a few booms and shurikens before I knew what it worked on

Out of my mind:

Works on:

All Shotos
Sagat (High Tiger Shots)
Juri (Mid/high Fuharenjin)
Steve
Alisa

Does not work on:

Guile
Raven (Exception: Every air shuriken, even lowest)
Poison
Jin
Cody

Not entirely sure about Jin and Alisa.

Turbo · 2013-04-06T12:56:13.000Z

it does work on Jin, doesnt work vs sim, guile , chun