"Lay Hands on'em!" Gen Video Thread

tha_messiah · 2011-12-14T01:14:25.000Z

New intro sequence. First AE 2012 match. Keep in mind I was up for 30 hours.

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iLLusoyun · 2011-12-14T06:38:21.000Z

New intro sequence. First AE 2012 match. Keep in mind I was up for 30 hours.

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Nice clutch ultra Cody is a hard matchup for Gen.

nubbb · 2011-12-14T07:16:18.000Z

Nice clutch ultra Cody is a hard matchup for Gen.

Sorry but, imo, Cody is free

Nice job btw Kiryu

tha_messiah · 2011-12-14T09:15:22.000Z

Sorry but, imo, Cody is free

Nice job btw Kiryu

Thanks, I tend to have a tough time with cody.

WarriorBySand · 2011-12-14T13:43:20.000Z

big change on gen guys congratulations

XianMSG · 2011-12-14T17:41:11.000Z

**www.twitch.tv/crosscounterasia **

Guys i will be streaming and playing Gen SSF4 AE 2012 , practicing for this sunday china tournament , check it out

Reticently · 2011-12-14T19:14:05.000Z

**www.twitch.tv/crosscounterasia **

Guys i will be streaming and playing Gen SSF4 AE 2012 , practicing for this sunday china tournament , check it out

Thank you for letting us know! I managed to catch your last few matches before you went on smoke break.

Have you happened to notice yet if any match-ups have changed very much for Gen?

Anonymous_996d5c822ca648e50b2d09aa76ab967a · 2011-12-14T21:55:32.000Z

Just finished watching, I noticed crane cr.HK was not used very much. I think it could have been used more? Especially when you were trapped in corner Guile pressure. Overall Guile just jumped-in a lot during his offensive streaks.

The_Theorical · 2011-12-15T02:26:57.000Z

You know what I’ve noticed from re-watching Amiyu videos? The man sticks to HK Gekiro usage way more than crane’s c.HK.
I guess when you have confidence in your reflexes, it makes sense to always go for HK Gekiro. I don’t

WarriorBySand · 2011-12-15T15:24:41.000Z

best part its the Jyasen one , man this’s so wonderful

Xian Gen is strong but he must reduce that back dash

MattMcFly · 2011-12-15T16:30:56.000Z

It’s weird that Amiyu never uses HK Gekiro after the target combo. Even on characters like T Hawk. Guess that’ll change now, with the hard knockdown you want to land it every chance you get.

Great video btw Messiah. Those Jyasen combos are stylish as hell.

Redwolfx · 2011-12-15T18:37:12.000Z

[media=youtube]UJNEESx5AXA[/media] Roll combo, Cross-up Super.
http://www.twitch.tv/xxupyourgamexx usually on Xupyourgamex Live 24/7 SSF4 UMVC3 stream on PSN network.

21 Hit-Combo with 3 HP Roll usually does just less than 400 dmg and 500+ stun without Jumpin and will most likely put them in the corner, unless you want to FADC and Finish off with HK gekirou, I’m enjoying this update. Found some new Setups for EX-Divekicks ^^

RedefinitionVE · 2011-12-16T00:41:35.000Z

Oh god. At 2:33 is that a cross up super set up? Gross. Fucking awesome match, by the way.

Infil · 2011-12-16T02:05:45.000Z

Cross-up super is neat, but… can’t Cody just ultra on reaction?

yeb · 2011-12-16T02:57:21.000Z

^^ Or EX Zonk, or EX criminal upper, or just back dash. Of course, no one will ever do any of that when they expect to be able to block and punish it. I want to know how many tries it takes to land something crazy like that, considering it requires probably 1f timing without the help of input buffers.

The_Theorical · 2011-12-16T03:49:05.000Z

^^ Or EX Zonk, or EX criminal upper, or just back dash. Of course, no one will ever do any of that when they expect to be able to block and punish it. I want to know how many tries it takes to land something crazy like that, considering it requires probably 1f timing without the help of input buffers.

It’s a tad more lenient depending on the crossup setup.
Just measure the window of frames in which the hitbox “paints” over the opponent’s hurtbox and counts as a crossup. Varies with the opponent, of course. It’s prolly something like 3f, I randomly guess. And if that’s the case then you have that exact leniency with the input of Oga and super.
It’s as hard as forward throw, jab roll, safe jump crossup. Mistiming the roll by 1f will ruin it against many characters. But like you said: input buffers.

It’s all specials and supers, so… nothing good ol’ mashing (a few frames before recovering from throw/oga) won’t solve.

tha_messiah · 2011-12-16T03:53:22.000Z

Changed the font in the video.

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yeb · 2011-12-16T09:00:05.000Z

It’s a tad more lenient depending on the crossup setup.
Just measure the window of frames in which the hitbox “paints” over the opponent’s hurtbox and counts as a crossup. Varies with the opponent, of course. It’s prolly something like 3f, I randomly guess. And if that’s the case then you have that exact leniency with the input of Oga and super.
It’s as hard as forward throw, jab roll, safe jump crossup. Mistiming the roll by 1f will ruin it against many characters. But like you said: input buffers.

It’s all specials and supers, so… nothing good ol’ mashing (a few frames before recovering from throw/oga) won’t solve.

I’d be shocked if there’s even a 2 frame window to nail a crossup fierce super. Also, there’s no buffer window for specials/supers after a throw or wall dive, all you can do is plink/negative edge. If the setup actually requires a delay rather than the fastest possible timing, those are out the window too.

Al_Mantis · 2011-12-16T11:31:17.000Z

This is the safe jump that i discoverd today with RH Gekiro … it works on most of the cast specially Ryu, Ken, Akuma, cammy, evil ryu and oni and others … problem with this safe jump that some times it does NOT work in the corners so here is the setup

Hk Gekiro(Full) - Lk Oga - mantis mk jump

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comments and please try it

Schiff · 2011-12-16T11:42:33.000Z

good find! It’s also pretty simple to realize… I’ll test it for sure in game!