The key to that is to let yourself be led on. Make sure she knows your intentions off the bat.

Did you mean to say not let yourself be led on? If so, at what point would some guy saying (and not in these exact words) “I want to be your boyfreind” not weird you out and/or drive you away because it’s to early for that. Most women even take this as an insult or sometimes a flattering advance. It’s to hard to know. And nothing says you’ve just made an ass of yourself like hearing “your not supposed to ask, your supposed to just know”. I am? Well shit, as far as I’m concerened, in my sick twisted little universe you are mine. Of course I feel cheated when you go out with someone else without breaking up with me since I just KNOW that we are together because it just happens. But that’s a whole other story. Do I need to whip out the horse again?

ONEZ

I love dead horses! Let’s beat this one s’more.

Yeah, I hate that “you’re supposed to know” bullshit too. Really? I’m supposed to know? Well, then, ladies, YOU are supposed to know that I want you to tell me straight up.

Nah man. I’m not saying there’s a perfect moment and that she won’t consider you creepy, but if you start out from a “prospective boyfriend” stance, you’re less likely to fall into the friend stance. You just have to make sure to do that so you don’t let yourself be led on.

edit: that’s my point. Someone has got to let someone else know what’s really up, if you don’t you usually wind up hurt & confused. You can’t always count on the other person, so take situation in your hands and do it first.

Turning in early tonight. This week already got me feeling shitty.

this past week was terrible, each day i grew more and more listless. all i have is my exercise.but even that is becomming a chore

Man I haven’t really posted Late night since My early 2003 days but i’ll be around for the next to weeks…

Anyway Ducky…
Gotta Love Lily Thai my brother Skeet! Skeet! Skeet!..

Rok Chick i see you “tryin” to give out advice…

Travis Dane: We know this, the women know that we know, but we make believe that we don’t know, and the women make believe that they believe that we don’t know . . . but know we know. Everybody knows.

I just replaced the word chinese with women.:bgrin: But Roxie, you are exactly right. But it’s hard going about the right way of doing that without sounding like a demanding asshole or some spinless piece of lunch. See, this is the thing. I ask you out, you accept. We go out and chill toghether every now and then. Keep in mind that we are both single. We just went on a date and this is where it all begins. For some reason or another, some women just don’t get the picture. This is supposed to be implied that I want to have something with. In order to cut back on foolishiness like this. When we go out, the woman should pay for her own widgets and quijibos etc. etc… But they don’t. All we are asking for is a return on our deposit. It doesn’t have to be sex right away although that would be nice. We just want to know that we are getting somewhere. But what happens? These bad women go ahead and they KNOW what’s going on and they take advantage of it. I also think good women do it to. Not realizing what’s going on at first, but then allow it to keep happening after the fact and then stabbing you in the heart with a bannana in the end when they realize that they don’t want anything from this. kicks horse just a little more I don’t speak for all men when I say this, but a lot of us appreciate shock value.

guy: would you like to go out to whatever with me?
gal: sure what time, btw, this isn’t a date.

I will also except: no I can pay for myself thank you.

And even if we insist on paying AND WE WILL BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE DON’T KNOW ANY BETTER!!! Then don’t let us. In the back of our mind, it’s all about trying to impress you and our male egos will not allow us to think clearly. Besides, we don’t want you to think and tell your friends that we are cheap bastards.

Also, stop flirting with us if we are just going to be friends. If you know you’ve got it, don’t flaunt it to us. All your doing is driving us crazy. That ability is used to make your girlfriends who don’t have it jealous.

ONEZ

This is where my previous theory comes in.

The difference between same sex friendships of males & females is a 100 miles long.

I “go out” with my g/fs all the time. If I had no previous exprience with guys like, no conversations as to how they think and feel about girls, I’d think nothing of him asking me out. So if you prefaced it with “I’m really interested in you and I’d like to get to know you better, how’s about we go out?” It might go a little better (or worse depending on the girl).

Also, some type of sexual/romantic gesture should take place after a while. Trying to hold her hand or something if she just doesn’t get it.

I know the first time a guy gave me his number I didn’t get it either. This was because during the entire semester we had spoken just as friends and hadn’t show any romantic interest in me and then suddenly gave me his number during the FINAL (meaning we wouldn’t see each other in class anymore). I also was of the opinion that no guy would ever be interested in me in that sort of way, but that’s totally another story.

If he had signed the paper “let’s go out on a DATE some time”, I would’ve gotten it. I’ve got excellent reading comprehension skills.

What I mean is, just be VERY clear about what YOU think it is. She should let you know what SHE thinks it is soon after and if not, move on.

Omni your from Louisiana Have i ever seen you before?..
I usually hang out with Dakota and Irvin when we have get together…
I’m the goodlooking one that roxie luvs to death :tup:…

Yeah, that doesn’t really workat least not with top tier women. The only thing that has worked for me, seriously, is C & F (the first few times, I pulled it off by accident). I think it’s because they’re so used to getting hit on that, unless you are different (and by that, I mean confident), you will fail (not that C & F’s success rate is that high eitherbut your method’s success rate is near 0%).

What you’re saying may work for you and a few other women, but, for most people, it’s no good.

Well, hell I’m not trying to make any guide book or something.

I just feel it’s best to be honest about your intentions as soon as your feel the moment is appropriate and don’t wuss out about it. That way you eliminate the risk of you feeling as if you’ve been “led on” and the girl won’t think of you as “just a friend”.

Maybe, you never know. I’m from New Orleans and I lived on the east bank and my mom just recently moved to the westbank. I haven’t been home in so long that is hard to say. Normally, when I go outside of the N.O. it’s to shrevport, plaquamine, Bayougoula, slidell or white castle and sometimes vashrie. If you haven’t been to or live in any of those places. Then chances is no. What part of LA are you from?

ONEZ

I’m from baton Rouge…
I hang out with Kingofkod and The Dark Phoenix…

Nah, sorry. But I haven’t been in baton rouge in years. since I’ve been in the military. I’ve only been to louisiana 6 or 7 times in 8 years. Out of those few times, I’ve probably been to baton rouge abut 3 times.

ONEZ

NO you’re not. That’s The Grey Area.

He’s got a virus and he’ll infect your ass to death for such!

I’m finally fucking finished with my homework and I can now go to bed, only to be awakend at 6am.

Lovely day depression.

Is there middle ground between asshole and nice guy? Sure. Can a middle ground guy get the girl? Sure.

Do I feel like going middle ground? No.

Omni, did you ever hear anything else about that $80 shinkansen ticket between Tokyo and Kyoto?

What Would Zorro Do?

Today my friend Bobby really put it into perspective. I’m having trouble lately because I met a really nice (albeit damn hot, even by my shallow LA-native standards) girl, who I can’t go out with for various reasons.

Bobby, he says “Dude, just stop it. You can’t think like that. Zorro wouldn’t do that shit. Zorro, he goes out at night, in his cape, with his mask and sword and shit, he doesn’t give a fuck. He doesn’t get hung up on one chick, bitches follow him around all day, because he just goes out. At night. In his cape. 'Cause he’s fucking Zorro.”

I don’t know why that makes sense. But I actually felt a lot better afterward.

N - Be like Zorro.

I don’t believe that there is a middle ground. It’s just a matter of letting them know who you are and what your about from the jump. All mating rituals involve smoke, mirrors and a little dancing. You don’t have to be something else, just be you. It is my belief that we’ve all got this mechanizm embedded in us. You may not notice in yourself, but I notice it in me. When ever I get around a female that I’m interested in, my whole persona changes. I go from the crazy guy that everybody knows and loves to an intelligent philosopher of some sort. At this point, I’m just oozing with intellect and all sorts of stimulating conversation because I want to get the girl. She can meet that other fool later if she hasn’t seen him. Sometimes they do ask for him and he comes back. But he makes to many FRIENDS. You’ve all done or seen this before. It is better known as MAC mode. Sure, your still in there. But a better you comes out. This is because we know we want the girl to accept you for you, but the you that’s known for being with your friends may not be good enough for her right now. Hence the term, getting to know YOU better. I could go on and on with some of my friends all day about Papa smurf vs. post crisis Superman. But not with her. When you talk to women, at least for me anyway, it’s like an interview. I’m checking to see what kind of person they are and what kind of future that they are gonna make for themselves. If they are goal orientated and most importanly NOT CRAZY!!!

I think I’m going to be a love guide for this board. Pimpology hasn’t been posted in a while and after being in here. I feel obligated to do so.

As for that ticket thing. This fool read the add all wrong. It turns out that the $80 is one way and we all know that doubles if you wanna get back home.

ONEZ