KOF XIV General Discussion - King of Fighters XIV Arcade Ver. Burn 2 Fight cabinets from Taito!

The release date can be changed, like I said here in Japan there were rumors that this game was supposed to be announced way back. But we all act like companies dont push shit back. Any of you all waiting got Might No 9 that was supposed to be out March then September, now December. I think they are saying 2016 just to have a reason to show it at TGS, but it could be pushed back could be December 2016.

Dont forget that when XIII came out they waited for a long ass time before they released so that they wouldnt compete with SF4 and BB.

I get the knee jerk reactions but if this was capcom there would be hella more people saying stay calm and give it a chance. Look at SFxT.

So yea I have been playing Snk games since I was a kid and Im hoping they get their shit together and make XIV as good (if not better than) XIII. I do hope that everyone who is angry at the trailer has at least played some of the past SNK games. If there are people hating who havent even played XIII I see you argument as irrelevant.

Someone please just tell me Falcoon isn’t in charge of the character designs this time.

Funny that Kyo’s render on the website looks better than he does in game…

http://www.snkplaymore.co.jp/us/games/kof-xiv/

If they are “trying their best”, they must be a bunch of freshmen that didn’t even finish school. How can they make look worse than early 2000s fighting games? If these developers are “doing their best” they must be college interns then… This looks completely horrible, I haven’t seen any video game trailer so underwhelming, and I’m not just talking about fighting games…
If the studio turns out to be good but budget’s so limited then they simply shouldn’t do the video game, it’s just inconceivable that theyr’e trying to sell this PS1-level graphics for the PlayStation 4. But even with a limited budget, good art direction can sort of makeup a little for that… but these aesthetics are just awful.

this is the worst vg trailer I’ve seen since Mega Man Xover, but at least that was a spinoff…

Nonsense? You call complaining about this piece of crap NONSENSE? Dude, this is the standard reaction to the trailer, haven’t you seen ? NONSENSE is being such condescendant with the company you are accepting they’re trying to sell a PS4 video game with a horrid trailer featuring PS1-level graphics, THAT’S NONSENSE.

Just stop defending the game, or I mean, if you’re going to, look for better arguments because you’re not making any sense. Even you have to recognize this is an insult to the quality KOF has delivered along the years, even with limited budgets the game you could see nice artistic direction, smart ideas… this KOF XIV looks completely hollow.

That has nothing to do with the fact this trailer is horrible and the game looks terrible. I appreciate your support to KOF but don’t make this into an argument of “we must support SNK no matter what!”, that’s just fanboy-ish.

The Batman movie franchise would have been better if Joel Schumacher hadn’t made Batman & Robin, we agree?

Again you’re generalizing, do you see the thread filled with “WHEN’S THE NEXT KOF GAME GOING TO RELEASE?” threads. No. I think people was in general happy with how the series ended with KOF XIII, it was a worthy game, it was fun, it made the new sprites shine, it showed a lot of love for the franchise, the characters, easter eggs, great gameplay, everything. I didn’t see too many people constantly making pressure to SNK for a new KOF game.

I was happy on how all this closed and I didn’t ask for a new installment. But I would gladly accept one if it was decent. But this… this is crappy beyond belief, and the worst thing is that it’s not just a cashgrab spinoff game, but a numbered entry!! It’s the definitive sign they just stopped giving a shit, they’re planning to make the franchise into a bottom of the barrel budget game! This long-time respected brand will be completely destroyed here onwards… Seriously, WHY?! Why don’t you some respect to this series trajectory?

Do we want it to be “perfect”? No. But we want something more worthy than PS1 level graphics… that’s just an insult. It’s an insult to themselves, mainly, because they no longer value the great franchise they’re guardians of. They will destroy the brand completely for years to come, they’re ultimately hurting themselves because of this incredible display of mediocrity and stupidity.

You are allowed to be happy, but if you go around saying people to “shut up, stop complaining, you have to love and support the new KOF”, you’re going to have a terrible time, because your arguments are the true NONSENSE here.

No John, you’re not and I’m not taking your holier than thou shit this time.

We’re allowed to want a new KoF and want bigger aspirations for them. I understand the problems that SNK has, but at no point does that mean I should lower my expectations just for them.

You want to throw “WHY THE FUCK AREN’T YOU POSERS PLAYING XIII?!” Because the netcode fucking sucks and I said from day fucking 1 of XIII’s release that SNK needed to deliver on that netcode if they wanted a good amount of people to stay around. Not everyone has a goddamn scene to go play in and I’m not playing in underwater conditions just to support SNK. On top of that, all I hear from the old heads is “XIII is just a scrub’s KoF, real KoF players play 98/02” all the fucking time.

I do NOT support game companies. I don’t believe in that shit, that’s a waste of my time. I will support games that I’m interested in and I believe are worth investing in. I don’t give a shit what companies they come from. I don’t care if a game comes from a company that’s failed 500 times, if it looks good and they might’ve hit a winner, I’m going to invest my time in at least following, researching and if all goes well, playing. I dont’ care if a company has hit the ball out of the park 500 times, if a game looks like shit I dont’ care. I don’t care what your financial issues are, or whatever outside influences are affecting you. If it’s that much of an issue, take an extra year on that shit and come back to us or don’t bother making the game if it’s that big a financial strain.

Right now, KOFXIV looks amateur hour. I’ll give them this much, the game could look like vomit and play potentially great. But until actual gameplay footage comes out, which it probably won’t for a while because it looks absurdly pre-alpha, this is all we have to go on. It may seem unfair to compare to Capcom and other companies but you know what? It’s entering the arena where a ton of Fighters are out and active. By the time it comes out, SFV will be out, MKX will be a year strong, Guilty Gear will be bringing out an update, Blazblue may be out or on the horizon, Tekken 7 will be out on console, and this is not even taking into account offerings on other consoles besides PS4. It HAS to compete with these games, being Anti-SF4 or Anti-Capcom isn’t going to be enough to get eyes on it immediately. KOFXIII had the fortune of coming out at a time where people were getting tired of Capcom’s offerings and other companies hadn’t stepped up as much. They will not have such a luxury this time.

They have to get by with quality and quality alone and I’m sorry, when did KOF earn such faith? This is a franchise that has had 50% of its offerings at least be poor showings and that’s being nice. 98/02/XI/XIII are the only ones that people truly get behind. You get some niche following for the others for various reasons, but those are the big 4 (or the big 3 and XI but I’ll give it the benefit of the doubt) that really stand from the rest. The other 9 games faltered, especially ones involving the Strikers, or just didn’t stand out for very long. So why the hell should anyone have such absolute faith that this game will be a gem?

So you know what John? Fuck you, go ahead and sit on your throne all you want saying that people are frauds and are too stupid to support SNK. I’m going to sit over here, not be a fucking SNK Dick Riding moron, and let KOFXIV prove to us that it’s actually worth our fucking time. If they think what they just showed at TGS was acceptable, they’re terribly wrong. If the game wasn’t ready they should’ve taken more time with it before presenting it to the public. Just say KOFXIV is coming without the visuals and be done with it, that would bring hype and no issues would be had. If they want the gameplay to stand above the crappy visuals, then they better show us that it’s worth a damn. Gameplay AND Netcode better be on point. No excuses anymore. They think they deserve to stand in the ring again, they have to show something better than that, period.

Maybe you guys should wait for more than a 10-second teaser trailer… the sky isn’t falling just yet.

Can we tone down the hyperbole for a bit.

I mean, it doesn’t look modern, but it’s not “PS1 level”.

The lighting effects seem to be about late 7th-gen, early 8th-gen at best. The character models are in the same range as many budget titles from Japan or Korea. Honestly, it’s more the art direction that’s an issue. Those faces are just meh, and combined with the budget animation which is what makes them look bad.

The thing I’ll give that does look 6th-gen is the stage which looks to have bad textures and a low polygon count.

In fact, if anything, we SHOULD be complaining, because we’re the true fans and we care about the brand. Do you think SNKP is caring about the brand trying to sale a Nokia N-Gage-graphics level game for the PS4? NO! They’re just destroying the brand, they will make KOF into the laughingstock.

Maybe if we complain hard enough, they will realize what they’re doing and decide to drop the “XIV” from the title and present the game as a spin-off series instead… that’s what they should do if they don’t want to destroy the name of the franchise; KOF XII was enough of an embarrassment, don’t destroy everything they’ve accomplished with this awesome series until now…

Yeah no, you shut up too now. There’s no “brand” destroying. You’re overselling what the brand is. Making a spinoff won’t make the game any better. I don’t care if it’s KOFXIV or KOFMI3 or KOFZIEK, I just want a good game.

If you’re making “canon” a bad game in the series, you’re polluting the franchise, they shouldn’t consider these awful titles “true” KOF games. If they’re trying to sell this new concept as the “next step in the KOF evolution”… then people will just become pessimistic and think series will only decline after this, because it’s a huge stepdown.

Imagine if Street Fighter EX was called “Street Fighter III” back then… the people’s conception of the series would have been very different. Not saying EX series was terrible or something, but it doesn’t hold a candle to whatever Capcom genius were doing back then.

I hope Sony can show SNK some love like they did capcom. That would be nice to get the game going and give people another reason to get a PS4

I never did like when fans use SNK financials as an excuse. As a customer, it’s not my role to care. The company’s financial issues and difficulties in developing their games has no effect on me as a consumer. All I want is a quality product. XIV right made an awful first impression with it’s shitty visuals and crap animation.

I don’t give a fuck what anybody’s crying about. New KoF has got me AMPED.

I think the models are honestly alright. It’s the animations and lack of fluidity that need tweaked. It doesn’t help that we only saw each sequence for maybe a second, with cinematic rotating cameras that somewhat distort my perspective on the action shown.

What other thing that has visually seemed off-putting is Kyo and Iori have some white auras about them. Like the lighting doesn’t make any sense compared to the angle of their shadows. In 13, that lighting effect would’ve never been applied because it would’ve looked even weirder to put on sprites. so they just gave them generic noon-time shadows, which could be easily done here. The way the lighting is for 14 reminds me a lot of that terrible milky white stage in 13 that nobody would choose to play on.

So yeah I’m optimistic about KoF. I wish more people would be expressing hype about there being a new KoF rather than ram their knobs in SNK’s butthole over seemingly outdated graphics. For me, graphics are the last concern I have when it comes to a good game. I was raised on shitty 8/16-bit sprites, and highly pixelated PS1/Dreamcast/N64 3D models. It never stopped those games from being fun so long as the control was good and there was replay value.

Lastly “lol” at people talking shit about graphics and then out of nowhere start creaming about “CvS3 being on the horizon”, as if it wouldn’t look just as bad as this to y’all. I’d take certain CvS mechanics put into KoF14 before I’d act so deluded to think CvS3 is a realistic possibility in the near future.

But hey, maybe if those sponsors in the KoF14 stage were real, the graphics would be high enough to appeal to the masses that don’t concern themselves for what lies beneath.

I have no Issue with this game so far except how Kyo looks but its what ever. Can’t wait for me detail on this game. Let the Nay sayer be. While Im not fan of Negative reaction, any promotion IMO benefits KoF/SNK, true fan will stick around.

Improved teaser.

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Improved teaser.

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Much better, but I thought it was going to fake it by including cutscenes from the recent pachislot x___x

Improved? I thought John Cena(!!!) was gonna be in it. :o

He is, you just can’t see him.

It’s not just the graphic polish/polygon count, the art direction is absolute shit. There is nothing within the trailer that brings any sense of yearning or excitement other than it is KOFXIV. It looks awful, we see awful renditions of classic characters doing moves we’ve seen many times before, it doesn’t sound remarkable either. Why even show this trailer, I don’t know.

I remember SNK said last year they were working on a new KOF which would be easier execution, be close to KOF 98 in design, and have the largest cast ever as well as the largest production team ever. It sounded exciting, this trailer kills all of that.