His corner infinite is banned also…I think I have that in the list of rules I ust posted up in my links…

Yeah he aint the only character with the unblockable meaty…

The corner infinite is like a wakeup meaty, I think it shouldn’t be banned just because you reset the guy earlier. That means you’ll have to ban Ash unblockable setup too.
You can roll or use a move with invincibility to get out of it.

anyone know why chizuru, chris, andy, jhun and yamazaki aren’t in this game?

Chris- dead.
Andy- Falcoon doesnt like him been mentioned before.
Jhun- See NeoWave
Chizuru- See KOFXII possibly.
Yamazaki- Who knows.

Outside of what Dark Geese said, Chizuru was hospitalized when Ash stole her powers. She probably won’t be in another game until Ash has his downfall, although it would be nice to see Ash use her powers a bit more.

Ok I finally got down to selecting 2 teams, which hopefully I can turn to 1 in the near future
1.Gato,Ash,Athena(L)
2.Jenet,Ryo,Kensou

got a few questions

  1. on that second team who should I give the Leader to?
  2. some info on Ash,Athena,and Kensou because I can’t find too much on them
  3. which hyperhops should I use with Kensou,Jenet,Athena if any at all

p.s Andy Bogard is the shit, why does falcoon gotta drink that hatorade?

On second team Ryo needs to be best Leader. I’ll comment on more later…

I would say C-tier characters and up are cut-off line for usuable characters in serious tournaments.
C-tiers characters have a few gimmicks that make them usuable enough.

Since you’re here, I have to ask, what match-ups were you talking about concerning Hayate?

That wasn’t me who said that, that was from the original source of the translated Japanese tierlist.

That said, I do agree partially with it…although I’m beginning to see more of the downsides to Hayate. He does very, very well against some characters but very, very badly against others. Unfortunately, most of those bad match-ups are against top tier, leaving him overall mid-to-low.

Hayate’s biggest problem match-ups are characters with high mobility and invincible anti-airs. Against those characters, he can’t run his Air Boomerang mix-up game…which means that he is fucked.
The next biggest problem are against characters who may not have great mobility or anti-airs but do a ton of stun damage with their BnBs. That means characters like Duck and Gai. Hayate is at the very bottom tier of Stun Resistance (He takes 130% Stun damage) which means 2 bad mistakes and you are dead.

Well, what about his good sides? He does very well against projectile spam. His Air Boomerang game counters any kind of attempt at lockdown or keepaway. His B normals can link or cancel to any of his As/Cs/Ds. His QCBx2+Punch Gen’ei Boomerang super is an anti-air that covers almost the whole screen. He’s got a semi-useful dodge (b+C). His f+C and df+C are excellent pokes and are cancellable. So basically he’s anti-keepaway, anti-lockdown, and counters rushdown characters with bad range.

Anyone have a tier list of who has the best to worst stuns?

I kinda gave up on XI.
Dunno why.
Just kinda had a falling out on it.
I should pick it up again and give it one more try.

I think it was cause I couldn’t find a set team I liked outside of Kula(L)/Beni/Iori
I didn’t like how pretty much everyone plays BUT those 3. Well, cept Yuri. But Yuri/Iori would be pointless since they’re basically the same character and I don’t want Yuri/Beni cause I won’t drop Iori…so…
edit: Oh, and Terry, he’s pretty fun too.

Ah well.
I’ll just wait till NGBC comes out.

-SH

Btw right now I’m rocking Gai, Ash and Clark (L). Opinions on the team setup?

I also play Oswald and Terry. Im thinking about quickly learning Shen Woo to.

AH! finally got my U/C copy of kof xi TOO HAPPY!

Finally got mine and the time to actually play. (damn tests)

At the moment I’m looking at King, Yuri, and Terry as Leader, with Jenet as a Substitute for King if need be. They’re the only ones remaining from my orginal 2003 five (Terry, Joe, Mai, Yuri, Leader King) I’m also debating learning Oswald, Duck and Vanessa.

I’m going to also check out DG’s vids cause I’m curious to see if Duolon has evolved past the one trick pony he was in 2003. Not being arrogant, but I got too used to ‘lol I has a infinite’ players on kaileria that couldn’t do anything if you punished their constant teleporting or the same combo starters over and over.

Ohh Duo Lon has evolved…I dont need that infinite…in 2003 serious…

People are gonna get raped by shit they dont expect ths weekend…put money on that…

does this game work on ps3? and is there any lag?

I’d say Keep Gai and Clark, but Ash has gotta go.

Ozzy or Terry would do better as leader.

Now when it comes to deciding if Clark or Gai goes 1st is up to you, Clark for higher tiers, Gai for the rest.

Gai/Shen/Terry (L) sounds good, but you have to have a good Terry.

Or you can do the Hero Team.

EDIT: I discovered I really suck with Malin, any help on match-ups?
I’m gonna really need it since I will be at this gathering Saturday.

Now if you ca play Ash well I’d keep him.but it depends on your playstyle overall… Also with Clark Leader whats your objective? Kane used to used Clark Leader viciously and it got the job done though Judge is right there are better leaders…

But Clark ain’t a bad one by any stretch of the imagination.

Holy Shit, we’re in version 3 and already hittin 100 pgs.