But rolls are very punishable, so it just set ups as situation where Oswald can bait and combo you, or just wait for you to block and then combo you.
Yes, but this has nothing to do with the fact that it’s still legal in those situations, which was the point I was trying to make.
The very fact that you can force Oswald to do something other than just df+A over and over in those situations proves that it isn’t worth being banned there. Only on an incoming opponent, who cannot do anything, is the move then banned.
oswald still needs to get in first before anything even happens
No sir. It’s only illegal if you do it on an incoming opponent, as stated above. Perfectly legal in any other situation. That’s tournament standard.
The bad thing about Oswalds LDM though is that it takes so damn long…it takes so long that judgment will not sway in your favor until it finishes…
Alright thanks. I only played it with my nub friend to get a better idea of what the game was like and he didn’t punish my Ace’s so i didn’t realize it was punishable on hit. I take it would take a super like Joker, Buster Wolf super, or other lunging super to do it?
Seems like i’m going to have to learn those garunteed setups than.
Dark Geese
**Also there is more to Kula than a Sakura…I recall at the beginning everyone thought they had Kula figured out as a “simple version of Sakura”
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lol, she has more frame traps than sakura ever had and her j. C is better than Sakura’s j. MK but in the end she seems very similar in play style. Goal is to always combo into FP Shoryuken (crow bite?) which can be combo’d from pretty much every hit thanks to layspin. Hell she even has cr. lk, cr. lk, st. lk, C Crowbite (think that’s right :wonder:). Now she isns’t a carbon-copy clone but very similiar. And hell she has a 50% no-bar bnb off an overhead that is unpunishable :rolleyes:
So Gato’s offense is made up for in what he lacks in no-bar dmg by how good his hyperhop/low mixup game is I guess. Probably going to get rid of Oswald and make him leader shortly so Gato can be more threatening. Thanks.
Well I wouldnt say always combo into FP Shoryuken…in the corner reflect is deadlier…
I use FP Shoryuken mainly as the following:
- Anti Air
-Get them in the corner
-BATTERY (it builds better than reflect)
So when I need some good battery really even in the corner I do FP Shoryuken…
other than that Reflect is what I use.
Now this is my style of play…some I see do FP Shoryuken 100% of the time…
I dont agree with that personally but whatever…
HH C is punishable believe it it is…you just gotta know with what…its easy to spot the amateur Kulas from the experts because the amateurs just whore HH C and thats too easy to stop…
Yeah now I admit she is like Sakura surely…but high level Kula aint just Sakura Bnbs and HH C to bnb combo to Shoryuken… Or just st.b to qcf+a Ice Breaths…
Also she has more frame traps than the one I have listed there… but as with everyone of them there are ways to get out…experts know how to do this…with meter or WITHOUT.
This game is harder to find in the stores than the X360 Hori stick. Like it’s totally impossible to find ahhhh, I don’t want to wait on the mail dammit.
Sorry just needed to vent that.
Nokato
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It looks like I’m gonna just order it if I call my local stores and they don’t have it today.
KMP
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Throw super when you’re in the corner, Oswald’s Joker, Gato punch super, Clark Gatling super. I’m not sure of any other, but you’ll be safe 95% of the time. And if you’re using Oswald as a leader, use the Joker the other 5%.
Does anyone have any strats and BnBs for Jenet,Ryo,and Vanessa? Also who should I give the Leader status to? Pretty much just getting into the game.
Yes I got strats on them but I gotta type it out…Vanessa stuff I got some of it archived I gotta get it to you in about 2 hours because I gotta go somewhere now.
Syxx573
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some stuff i use with jenet…
A,C,qcf+D,d+D,qcfqcf+P (works anywhere)
d+B,d+B,qcfqcf+P
A,C,qcf+A,qcfqcf+P yes it combos without a super cancel, and easy to hit confirm, you can also link standing A,C after a regular qcfA, as well as crouching B
A,C,qcf+D,d+B,B,B,B (do the kicks immedately after the last hit of qcf+D)
qcf+D,d+D is safe on block
you can DC into her leader from qcfqcf+P as long as you don’t wait too long into it, or she’ll just do a reversal.
in quick shift combos I prefer coming in with jumping C because it hits twice
hope this helps a little bit
Thanks Syxx, she’s a really underused character I guess, haven’t seen vids of her.
Also I have another question, I want to use Athena but from her tier, and the fact that I’ve seen so much KGO(Kula,Gato,Oswald), is she worth using?
With Jenet qcf+D to down+D is not totally safe…some things can punish it…very little but they can…
Athena is only worth using if shes Leader…other than that she is HORRIBLE in this game.
I gotta eat and take a nap and I will give you more…
AYO
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After playing for a week, I am really starting to get back into my groove (Sorry, had to) and now I’m back to my previous level of play.
I really, really enjoy playing with Terry (Duh), Tizoc, B. Jenet, Vanessa, Kyo, Maxima, Blue Mary, and Kim. Tizoc is mad fun, and having a grappler who is competitive is a great thing. After figuring out how to do leader moves (I’m stupid to an extent) I’ve been practicing.
Challenges are a pain, as is unlocked the bonus people. Even though they aren’t tourney legal, I like practicing with them for NGBC. Hotaru is pretty damn fun to mess around with.
I would like some BnB combo’s for Terry, Tizoc, Blue Mary, and Maxima though if anyone has a chance. Jenet info above helped me, I used her to own Magaki.
I’m really liking this quickshift system it adds so much to the game and Kula’s quick shift into Gato QcB-B~B x N f-B QcF,QcF-B super. Also getting into garunteed Perfect Aces off a cr. B of Gato’s is sick, saw a guy do it in an SBO vid. cr. B, st. C QS j. C, df-A, whichever setup you’d use in that situation it works with all of them and deals a really nice chunk for 1 stock bar only :wonder:. The setups were a lot easier than I thought they were once i got the timing down after the df-A for the Perfect Aces.
Kula seems to work really well without Meter. You know more about this game than me geese just saying she gives me a serious reminder of my A2, CvS2, and A3 Sakura, lol. Hope I can get some comp going here as this game seems really fun.
Question in a console tourney would Single button shifts be banned? On a pad it’s a bitch and a half to quick shift sometimes, so just curious. I have a dreadful feeling they would be as it is mapping 2 buttons to one but hell the game on default settings gives you a roll button.
:mad:How does one fight Clark and Ralf? I have a very, very bad history with grapplers.
Terry-
Jump C/D, stand C/D, hcf+C, f,f+C x2
Jump C/D, stand C/D, hcf+C, f,f+C, XX super
Jump C/D, stand C/D, dp+K, AB, super
Tizoc-
Jump C/D, stand C/D, hcf+B, tiger-knee qcf+A
Maxima-
Jump C/D, stand C/D, forward+A, qcf+C x3
Jump C/D, stand C/D, forward+A, qcf+C x2 XX super
