Kingdom Hearts *new thread link in OP*

Damn this game needs to be released NOW dammit. I just can’t wait to see how the storyline on this game unfolds and how the FF characters interact with one another.

what are these from?

In order:

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[]New: It’s from Beauty and the Beast apparently, but it just means that it isn’t restricted to just the castle for that world.
[
]Chain of Memories: I haven’t played that game, but I know that it’s some castle where the deeper you go, the more of your memories you lose.
[]KH1: This also has to do with Beauty and the Beast. It’s the place where you find Beast, fight Riku twice, and fight Maleficent before finding the Seven Princesses of Heart.
[
]KH1: Riku, Sora, and Kairi’s home world.
[*]KH1: Sort of, in that it was featured in the secret preview ending of that game.
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Does no one else use 40 posts per page, really?

Anyway, I have to say, this is perhaps one of the few games lately that I’ve been at all excited about. And I must say that I’m extremely excited about this one.

Correct on all counts except Hollow Bastion wasn’t a BatB world; it was Ansem’s home world, along with the home world of Squall, Yuffie, Aeris, Cid, and (supposedly) Cloud. But, yeah, Beast was there, since he followed Maleficent from his destroyed world. Though he wasn’t as good as Donald or Goofy. :tdown:

I’m just playing KH1 now and I’m up to the tall boss on the Queen of Hearts stage and I’m wondering, whats so good about this game? Sure its one of the best looking games I’ve played, everything looks great but the gameplay and level design feel like shit. Am I missing something? Does it get better or any different?

It’s just extremely annoying when my two partners are morons the camera is stuck or too slow and the enemies are teleporting all over the place. Secret of Mana and Legend of Mana just blow this game outta the water when it comes to action combat. At least you could see what was going on in that, at least you felt like you had better control over your character.

And don’t get me started on the Gummi Ship stage, what is that supposed to be Lego Space invaders?

I’d just like to knowif I’m going about all of this wrong.

Don’t forget Kairi! That was her home world as well.

Muskau, I guess it all comes down to a matter of opinion. Much like how you have your FF7 nuts, there are always gonna be people (like me) who just never got into it. I can’t stand turn based games. And if gameplay sucks but has a good storyline, I’d rather read a book.

Kingdom Hearts starts out kinda slow, both storywise and even gameplay wise. As you progress, obviously you and your partners will level up and gain new abilities that will make the game more enjoyable (how many of us would have killed to have Flight during that stupid hippo part in the jungle?) and you’ll get deeper into the story, as opposed to just visiting random Disney worlds over and over.
Donald and Goofy, for the most part, are pretty useless. You can customize them to do certain things more or less often, and you can even command them to target enemies. They are mostly just there for the story I’m guessing, since you should be able to take care of the enemies on your own. I won’t lie though, I loved them by the end of the game after they had saved my ass with Cure many a times.
I never had too many problems with the camera. You just have to get a hang of twirling it around with the R and L buttons while you’re running/fighting.
And um…forget the Gummi Ship. There really isn’t much of an excuse for that one.

I’m biased since I love the game, but I’d recommend sticking with it and seeing if you like it. Tweak around with the controls and you might find you’ll have an easier time. The quick-fire buttons for the magic are a life saver that I didn’t find out about til later in the game!

Almost forgot!

Man, I want an English trailer so baaaaaaaaaaaaaad…

EDIT -

The right AI settings make Donald/Goofy feasible, the camera isn’t the best but it isn’t nearly as bad as, say, Samurai Warrior Musashi’s (shudder), and the best parts of both the story and the action start coming up mid-game. It helps to play on the hardest difficulty; KH is fairly tough on Normal but on Hard things get insane, which is fun IMO.

HOWEVER, I think it’s just not everyone’s cup of tea. Don’t play through the whole game if you aren’t having fun with it. If you stick with it, enjoy! If not, no worries.

I heard kh2 is not comeing out until march of next year. I heard that the dude that does most of the voiceovers died so they had to go back and redo alot.

NOoooooooooooooooooo…

Damn japanese get it in December… :sad: I yearn for a Sonic Adventure 2-style simultaneous worldwide release.

If I ever make a game studio/publisher all my games get released worldwide at the same time. :tup:

Looks awesome. Thought the Mulan scene and beauty and the beast scene was the most interesting. Funny to see japanese speaking donald and genie.

TRUE:karate:

It’s gonna be REAL hard not to read a spoiler for this when the importers put their FAQs up. I won’t do it though; I won’t read an ounce of story until I finish the game.

At the moment though, these are specs’s official storyline predictions ™:

remember none of this is official, but may contain past SPOILERS from KH1 and CoM

Here goes:

In CoM, Mickey said to Riku that at first, he (Mickey) thought the Light was good and the Darkness was bad, but after seeing what Riku can do, Mickey isn’t so sure anymore.

The Nobodies in KH2 resemble the Heartless in more ways than one, but are definitely different. What if the Light is not only NOT the magnanimous entity everyone makes it out to be, but is really the cause of the worlds seperating (as mentioned in KH1)?

I think the Nobodies will be revealed to be tools of the Light, just as Heartless (which Ansem did not create, IMO, despite what he may believe) are minions of Darkness. Or maybe Ansem foresaw the Light growing too strong, tipping the “balance,” and DID create the Heartless (which I still doubt) to combat this threat, and maybe got lost along the way and went all apeshit crazy.

The Light being the true evil isn’t so farfetched. If Darkness is representative of the nothingness from which all life begins and ends, Light may be the being that, though born of Darkness, believes itself superior and, in its arrogance, threatens to undo life simply by refusing to acknowledge the balance it MUST share with Darkness.

In CoM, Riku was threatened by an overwhelming Light from an imposter Sora. Riku summoned a mighty darkness to cut through it, saving himself and revealing the fake as one of the Nobodies. This again supports that Nobodies are the minions of Light, and on the same level of “elemental malevolance” as the Heartless.

So I predict that, as KH2 progresses, the Nobodies seek Kingdom Hearts to either undo existence or turn life into something less than ideal. I predict that Axl will be one of the final villains, but not the final boss. Someone NEW will appear for that role, some great emissary of the Light that Sora must defeat. Ultimately, restoring the balance between Light and Dark will not be enough, and to set the course of things straight, Sora will somehow undo the need for this balance, possibly sacrificing his own life.

Twilight Town is a town of neutrality, a town of balance. The new kid’s unrest is related to his having to fight the Nobodies, minons of the Light. The new kid will use powers of Darkness, or powers combining Light and Dark, like Riku. He’ll meet Riku at some point. He is, IMO, the “other” hooded figure (the one NOT wearing a blindfold) in the Deep Dive ending in KH1.

Sora, though not the true Keyblade Master (source: KH1), will need to master both Light and Dark as well. This won’t be too tough for him since he’s been a Heartless once and conquered it. Those who have turned away from being either mindless Heartless or mindless Nobodies possess some will to defy the great Darkness/great Light, seeking to restore balance, or perhaps, again, elminate the need for that balance.

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Remember, just predictions. Nothing more.

ARGH WHY CAN’T THIS COME OUT IN DECEMBER!!? :sad:

O snap

(if the link above doesn’t work, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/JLthaInfamos/fuckingtron.jpg)

^ WOW. Nice, but it’s Kingdom fucking Hearts.

It’s a Japanese game and it’s a theme that Square’s explored before (Final Fantasy III, in which the Light Warriors meet the Dark Warriors, who in an ancient era saved the world from a deluge of light). Eastern philosophy constantly has that interplay between opposing forces and harmony between the two is always seen as the best possible scenario, rather than light winning over dark like we think of in the west.

IIRC, the first notion of light and dark used as spiritual metaphors was by the Neoplatonist Plotinus, who took Plato’s cave metaphor and explained darkness as the absense of light. Light and dark are seen as literally linear in this example.

I still believe that the shell which formed after Sora became Heartless is none other than the blonde kid. And I bet the reason they haven’t revealed the blonde’s name is because it’s Sora also.

…NIGGA OH!!!

I need this game.

Damn, where do they come up with this stuff? Sends shivers down my spine… :tup:

I just watched the vid, I cant wait for this to come out. Seeing Squall and Cloud back to back is just too good. I have a feeling I wont be seeing the outside world a lot when I get this game…

If you get to play the bike game I will assplode. :wow:

Best world ever. I (kingdom) <3 square enix.

Naw man, he only made the Heartless with the symbol on them. Any of the Heartless without it (Darksides, Shadows, etc…) are natural Heartless. That machine in Hallow Bastion creates the artificial Heartless with the symbol thangy on them.

Ansem Report 8
"There is no doubt that the Heartless are deeply connected to people’s hearts. Further study may unravel both their motivations and the mysteries shrouding the heart.

As a start I built a device that artificially creates Heartless. By recreating the conditions that spawn the Heartless naturally, I should be able to produce them artificially. This device is the culmination of all my research thus far. The machine’s test run successfully created a Heartless.

This may be a step towards creating a heart from nothing. The artificially and naturally created Heartless showed nearly identical traits. But the two types should remain distinct for the purpose of this experiment. So I will mark those that are created artificially."