King of Fighters 13 incoming!

[DarKaoZ]

Damn.

Damnit. I know a lot of folks didn’t play KoF12. I know why they didn’t and after the fact I understand it. Some of us (few though we were) did put a good amount of time in and that system was really, really clever. Every block string had to be thought out on both sides and baiting someone into reacting and landing that critical counter was quite satisfying.

I understand you completely, I loved KOF12 system, but KOF12 is slower than most KOFs and the system makes perfect sense for it. KOF13 is way faster and I think the system wouldn’t work that well in it. Still I have to say that KOF12 did the best way to activate a custom combo in a fighting game. Not like that overpowered A-Groove in CvsSNK2.

[Shishioh]

Stop bringing 12 up. Shit is done and buried.

13 all the way.

[Daidoji_Kage]

Stop bringing 12 up. Shit is done and buried.

13 all the way.

What a stupid thing to say considering how relevant the question was to 13.

[Shishioh]

Fuck 12. Move on or get left behind.

I’m tired of people lamenting over that aborted fetus to the point that it obstructs their view of the future. Every time someone brings that shit up in this thread, it creates that feeling of doubt. Doubt that KOF, as we know it, could still be here in the future.

If you want to talk about 12, please do it in the respective threads.

Long story short: If it’s not in this game, leave it in the past for now.

[DarKaoZ]

Fuck 12. Move on or get left behind.

I’m tired of people lamenting over that aborted fetus to the point that it obstructs their view of the future. Every time someone brings that shit up in this thread, it creates that feeling of doubt. Doubt that KOF, as we know it, could still be here in the future.

If you want to talk about 12, please do it in the respective threads.

Long story short: If it’s not in this game, leave it in the past for now.

:lame:

We were just discussing what and why the system of 12 couldn’t or could work with KOF13. What is wrong with that? If everytime you see the word KOF12 gets you all mad, then it must sucks to be you, but we can basically talk of whatever we want. If you don’t like to read anything about KOF12 you have the option to NOT READ. That simple, so can you let us discuss KOF12 and 13 now?

[JTSNOW6]

People seem to be acting like if you want intros and more win poses then you’re being a spoiled brat who doesn’t understand the time it takes to make animations… It’s not really true at all… I understand how painstaking it was to make the new sprites and all their animations and whatnot but I would just think it’d be cool if extra work was put in. That said, this isn’t a deal breaker for me in buying a fighting game ESPECIALLY a King of Fighters game cuz I’ll stick with them thick and thin!!!

And btw I LOVED XII too, Kage! Don’t worry if you practiced getting critical counter combos perfect because I’m pretty sure in Hyper Drive mode you can pull off some of the same exact combos from CC but just faster!

One last thing, does anyone have a link to a (human) translated blog entry by any chance?

[Shishioh]

:lame:

We were just discussing what and why the system of 12 couldn’t or could work with KOF13. What is wrong with that? If everytime you see the word KOF12 gets you all mad, then it must sucks to be you, but we can basically talk of whatever we want. If you don’t like to read anything about KOF12 you have the option to NOT READ. That simple, so can you let us discuss KOF12 and 13 now?

It didn’t work. Obviously if it did, it would still be there. It didn’t so it’s not. And KOF 12 should get you pissed more than me because it damn near killed the series from a money and gameplay standpoint.

Ready to move on to the future? I am.

Stop clogging the thread up.

In present day affairs, I’m actually torn between wanting someone to rip this like they did BBCS so we can play it at home early but I don’t want this game to fall into that piracy thing. They need as much money as they can get right now…

But if it did get ripped, I’d actually be inclined to help teach new people how to play. Getting tired of people being lazy saying that KOF is one of the games they always wanted to play but never had the time or had a teacher.

[graupel]

Even saw Hakan’s Anti-Air throw from Mastorious in there. Fighters History and Karnov continues to inspire us to this day!!!

Nice and similiar, though. Wonder if King will be able to cancel her air normals into air venom strike as easily as Yungmie did there, especially without drive cancel… If this new loketest gives us character reveals + Neomax first look, I wonder how much else will change with the game by then. Just a little longer until new Loketest vids! -party!-

I hadn’t noticed the Hakan thing until now. Cool.

[spudlyff8fan]

I’m one of KOFXII’s bigger defenders…but this doesn’t change the fact that things like opening/win poses and pre-battle character interaction are glaring omissions from a fighting game’s presentation, and for a game whose main selling point was its graphics and presentation…it is, at the very least, worth mentioning.

[Frankfurt]

Toxico from MMCafe, about the storyline interview:

Things that I cared… And I think I got right, har har. I’m completely skipping parts that didn’t get. Needs a grain of salt

They promised a surprise ending that you won’t be seeing coming, and that would more or less could be open to each individual interpretation (I think)

They won’t talk about Ash true goals just yet.

Ash won’t have a team and will remain an edit character.

When speaking about KoF’ISM’ they tried to select the cast thinking on both, popular preference and visual impact; and try will try to work on the characters so that they feel as unique as they can.

… I think he was speaking about liking the idea of doing a suiken character that would turn more and more red the more he drinks… Yeah, that’s we know who. I wonder if they’ll go for it.

Character text interaction is there to take character representation as further. Working in representing 4 languages or so in the game would have been just too tough, but they are at least trying to carefully work as much as possible in each character identity portrayal (For example, Ash being almost french, Liz being a neesama, etc). The pics are there showing how they didn’t choose the most simple keigo structure for the character explained there.

There would be some text interactions that would be something to look forward to, specially those between characters that go a long way story wise. They would also like further explaining some ‘unspoken relationships’ between some characters (the imaginary example they give would be something like "the conversation between Kanedanagi & Kyo would be something special).

Suiken = Drunken Boxing

I guess in the ending a main character will die.

[DarKaoZ]

Toxico from MMCafe, about the storyline interview:

Suiken = Drunken Boxing

I guess in the ending a main character will die.

Thanks for the heads up Frankfurt! I need to check MMCafe more often.

[Shin_Oni]

Toxico from MMCafe, about the storyline interview:

Suiken = Drunken Boxing

I guess in the ending a main character will die.

nice. I haven’t looked at MMcafe in years. Interesting to see someone’s getting killed off. Though in a fighting game, i’d take that with a grain of salt.

[JTSNOW6]

I’m one of KOFXII’s bigger defenders…but this doesn’t change the fact that things like opening/win poses and pre-battle character interaction are glaring omissions from a fighting game’s presentation, and for a game whose main selling point was its graphics and presentation…it is, at the very least, worth mentioning.

HOLY SHIT BEST POST IN A LONG TIME!!!

And thanks for posting the summary of the blog entry, Frankfurt!

[whodatninja]

no word on vanessa yet?

[spudlyff8fan]

no word on vanessa yet?

The odds are not in her favor.

Even though characters like Vanessa, Yamazaki and Heidern would’ve really been better picks that Mature, Chin and such.

[DarKaoZ]

The odds are not in her favor.

Even though characters like Vanessa, Yamazaki and Heidern would’ve really been better picks that Mature, Chin and such.

Yamazaki could perfectly fit in Kim team as Kim trying to make him good but failing in the end. That would be a funny ending to see.

Vanessa or Whip could also fit nicely with K and Kula, but instead we got Maxima it seems. =/

[Frankfurt]

If you think about it with the amount of frames needed for one intro, one taunt and one extra win pose for the whole roster you could make one more character, more or less.

Pretty much. A 5-frame winpose = a punch, a kick, or even a simpler special move. Now, multiply that by 33 characters. Then do the same for intros. Then taunts.

You would have the 450-500 frames for one extra character (hell, you could animate two bosses). Or you could exclude the winposes/intros/taunts and make sure Clark got one new move, Mature got 3, Liz got one, Terry got one (Buster Wolf, anyone?), Athena got her teleport… You know, adress the complains people actually had last time.

[d3v]

nice. I haven’t looked at MMcafe in years. Interesting to see someone’s getting killed off. Though in a fighting game, i’d take that with a grain of salt.

We aren’t even sure that the surprise ending means someone’ll die. For all we know, it could be a setup where it turns out that someone who we know but didn’t suspect is actually behind those from the past.

[Shin_Oni]

We aren’t even sure that the surprise ending means someone’ll die. For all we know, it could be a setup where it turns out that someone who we know but didn’t suspect is actually behind those from the past.

Never thought of it that way. It’ll be interesting either way.

[d3v]

Never thought of it that way. It’ll be interesting either way.

Or it could be something that seems surprising at first, but is contrived in the end. Like say, having Ash steal Kyo’s powers only to use it to beat Dark Ash or whoever the final big bad is, then promptly return those powers to Kyo, Iori and Chizuru.