Kyokuji> Depends on how and who you play with. If its 150 ms ping on “bad” connection setting, you can think about saying bye bye…you are better off not even starting. On LAN, thats still less than 1/5 of a seconds delay. Well, good connection setting on emulinker still means a possible hardcoded max delay of 9 frames regardless of whatever ping you have. Thats exactly 150ms. Its a bit stupid but if you model people’s luck statistically with the normal curve, you have some people who are there with their semi-average ping. And they get to come to forums like this and make special threads to bitch about “kaillera.” Well, you cant really blame them can you? They are merely bitching about what they see. And guess what, it becomes a nice little bitching thread that even the mod has to ignore because he likes his zbattle so much. And when someone goes thats not how it is, you all go get him. He does not know anything because he he does not agree with me. My garbage truck is as good as his limousine koz its mine.
I do agree ZBATTLE has better netcode than Kaillera. Client to client is simply superior to server to client. Kaillera’s client/server architecture is superior in scalability, but quite flawed for 1v1 games. There is no reason any data should be send/received to the server at all during gameplay, just a direct P2P connection would be better.
However until it is supported by an arcade emulator, it is useless. Kaillera’s gameplay came a long way over the last three years, I am getting much smoother play than ever before that ZBATTLE is obsolete.
One last thing. The biggest difficulty for Kaillera to grow is the fact that it is not really legal. If I start a thread with a clean zip file that contains MAME 0.64 + all the popular games played on US servers today, so that people can download and start playing in five minutes, it would bring significant interest.
Before someone call me out on that DOA4 more popular than all the 2D fighters combined statement. Count the number of threads with replies for last two days in DOA4 forum:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=928260
Now count the number of threads with replies for last two days in Tekken 5 forum (PS2 install base >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xbox 360):
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=920588
Last but not least, count the number of threads with replies for last 48 hours on Shoryuken Fighting Games Discussion Forum:
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2
It isn’t scientific sure, but it should definitely tell the story.
Only people in China play it. Everywhere else it’s 98 or 2002.
had alot to drink last nite im going to re-read what was posted past like 8pm or so.
God your stupid. Since when does the number of posts on gamefaqs serve as the litmus test for what’s going on in the fighting communtity? And to top it all of you posted the wrong damn links. here’s the right one. (smaller number is topics, larger one is number of posts). Not that it matters but PS2 SFAC has always been the more lively board. Always.
More random bullshit. DOA most popular game in the US? lmao where? amongst who? real fighter fans or rich kids who got it as a bundle for there 360’s for christmas? proof? link? nah nothing, foh. And lol at KOF being more popular than SF everywhere except the US, get you head out you own ass.
Lastly, no KOF’97 isn’t the most popular game on kaillera. *The number one * game changes during the day as the time changes. When the US is awake marvel is No.1, at 3am in the morning KOF, Winning Eleven or some other random game can creep up
Hitman you can’t compare SF srk boards to gamefaqs boards for doa or tekken. You either have to compare the gamefaqs SF boards with them, or compare srk to main tekken and doa sites.
www.tekkenzaibatsu.com
www.doacentral.com (not sure if this is the main one)
I’d still bank my money on srk having far more traffic, simply cause it encompasses alot more games, has a longer history and is home to the largest fighting game tournament in the world.
Rocklee, kof absolutely slaughter mvc and other marvel games on kaillera. In the chinese and other asian servers al your really find is kof and other snk games. Also if the kaillera.com website is to go by anything, then its quite clear kof rules. Of the top ten games 6 of them are kof. Kof97 alone makes up 20% of the all games being played on kaillera. MVC is only 2%, even in prime time in godweapon i doubt they come anywhere near kof.
Another theory I have on that, is that the lower amount of animation frames in KOF compared to other games, makes it more friendly to online play, then say capcom games- SNK’s crappy graphics actually does them a favor in this case.
Oh, internet drama, how I love it so. Over-reaction to the left of me, bollocks to the right, and here I am…
I am sure dead or alive series (3/Ultimate/4) sold more copies last five years than the top five 2D fighters combined. I will find some stats later. There is a reason the game is in WCG. SF is only relevant for those who grew up with it. 10-15 year olds of today will never touch it. Without new blood coming in, it is simply hopeless.
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I already said Interceptor is better than me in ST, which is not really a big deal since I suck pretty bad in that game. Consequently, it doesn’t change the fact he would lose to anyone who’s semi decent offline. I emphasize offline since there are only like 3 truly decent players at ST online
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Super Turbo 3 on World/U.S. is not Tourney standard. If you read any of the ST threads you realize that Japan Turbo 3 = U.S./World Turbo 2. I told Interceptor this, but he doesn’t care I don’t think. Given that adding extra speed to a game makes offense so much easier, especailly when defense was handicapped by lag/delay in the first place
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Lolerskates. I’d like to see anyone on Kal beat me into submission at a3 offline that isn’t Eishi or Slide. Its not going to happen. Especially not that scrub Quinton, Taiwanese (and all his aliases), and definitely not Hadou Ken/Doomsday
I told him he is just too fast for me and asked him to slow the game down to 1 and he did. I can actually win 1 out of 5 if I intentionally pick counter characters.
You are actually saying that someone can beat you 10-0 online and lose to you 0-10 offline? You really think this is possible?
I thought that those kaillera.com statistics were out of wack and only in tune with the mames that supported up to kof97 anyway? Then most emulation sites started supporting kof98 but i dont think the stats put it in though.
When kof2002 was dumped and played by EVERYONE, kof97 was still placed higher. I dont think that games like kof2002 are even a game that’s included in the kaillera.com statistic set. But im unsure cause i haven’t even visited that dumb site for years.
Also hitman, im willing to bet you that if you posted a zip of mame 61 for ST and A3 and 64 for those games, 61 would be the most enjoyed of the two. EVERYONE that’s made the switch from 64 to 61, as far as i know have all prefered the latter. Their game improved too because of it.
Nobody said this. We’re simply saying there are many cases where someone can beat you online, and then use those same tactics on you offline and lose most of the time.
I checked kaillera yesterday, and there were maybe 50 people online in all of the US. I’m sure more than 50 people passed CTF, one arcade in the country, that night alone. Maybe you play kaillera every night, but I’m certain most of those 50 people do not play everyday.
You are, once again, wrong on how many people play and how often. Again, where are you getting your statistics from? Nowhere. Head onto some other gaming message boards, you’ll notice that people still play games like 3s and CvS2 with their friends, and these people have never even heard of SRK. You need boards where people actually post socially, not gamefaqs boards dedicated to specific games. One of the jobs I had about a year ago, we’d bust out the PS2 and play 3s. These people did not know what SRK was, but they were into the game. They couldn’t match up to me, but they certainly played before I got there and after I left. I met up with an old friend from HS before I left for Cali, he and like 5 other people were playing random fighting games, like Project Justice, 3s and a few others, and again, they didn’t know SRK existed and couldn’t match up to me. They were just casual players. They frequently met up to play games, that’s another 5 people. So there’s 10 people that play games offline that I just happened to come in contact with, and you’re trying to tell me that’s some rare occurrence that happens nowhere else in the country? Did I happen to run into the only 10 people in the country that played offline? Or should I discount the other 20 or so people at university when I was an undergrad, and pretend that nobody played in any other undergrad in the country?
Your numbers suck, your thought processes suck, and you suck. You’re a joke.
challenge is the only 02 that is listed. 4p marvel doesn’t show even though it’s played as much as regular. right now theres about 23 97 games going in those in the top 10. 11 mvc games and yet it only shows as 2%. I’m not even sure if emulinker posts stats the way the normal servers do. the stats are either hella outta wack or it doesn’t even work properly
Your strongest eh? Ok, well I challenge you to some games of SFA2. Rarely do I ever get to play people in SFA2 (Finally something good came out of this thread :lol: ).
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I beat alex valle in a set of matches online in cvs2 on xbox live a long time ago. I guess I must have been better than him right? Damn I must be one of the best in america. lol damn I wish that were true but I was just some random guy from long island who won with lag.
On top of that I wasn’t even really any good at all at the time. I had like no ground game but lag helped my style. He would have destroyed me offline.
Your logic is flawed dude. Please stop posting this bs about people being better than others cause they win online.
I’d like to know where you got those statistics from, if its just from the waiting game list then that is wrong, as it doesn’t pick up most of the games.
I was also suspicious of those statistics. So i went browsing on some of the top asian servers that i could get on. 95% of the games are kof. Maybe those statistcs on the site are dated or not entirely accurate. But i’d definitely say kof gets more play than mvc on kaillera easily. Godweapon is like the only true major server in America. Reps is the major european server. But if look at the asian servers theres a good 5-6 which are about the same size, and they are packed with kof games.
I don’t know why any of us even care anymore when Hitman is a self admitted scrub.