Finals … is she at advantage on a lvl 1 focus in FSE?
Okay, so, right now I’m trying to figure out what’s the best combos now with meter because of the FADC changes. Only one I got adds about 40 more points to characters that get hit by j.HK, c.MK xx fireball, c.MK xx pinwheel. Anyone have others? I feel like there’s something I’m missing to increase damage.
Close mp in FSE is defo 5 frames i dont see what the issue is, it looks 3 frames and it links off light punch, seriously thats like all the proof needed.
No shes not advantage at lvl 1 focus.
Slayer your combo has the right idea, when i ran the math any combo that uses Pinwheel FADC close mp > pinwheel tagged on about 30-50 damage depending on the combo. The more hits before the pinwheel FADC the less damage the followup will do in comparison to ending it at the first pinwheel. If you use expinwheel at the end (3 meters total) instead of hk pinwheel its the same thing, your taging on an extra 30-40 damage and if you FADC again (4 bars) same thing +30-40 damage on the overall combo.
The great part about ex condor spire is that it has zero pushback on block against a massive target. Unless T. Hawk is just that weird, of course. Regardless, it behaves similarly on other characters so it’s probably not that.
Actually i checked it in training mode, you guys might be right, outside of FSE i can punish Seths SRK (2 hits) FADC which is -3 on block but inside FSE i cant. The only reason it looks to be linking off cr.lp is because its chaining.
Roses Hk Soul drill is -4 on block and it can punish that and it even feels harder to do, in which case the startup in FSE is actually 4 frames…CAPCOMMMM!!!
If someone can make a video and send it into eventhubs hopefully it gets noticed and maybe fixed when they patch the game again for bugs.
(EDIT: I’m an idiot. I was training on Cody. Ignore this).
Not sure if it has been said but, the EX Dive Kick’s bounce trajectory has been changed. Unless you’re close to the corner and auto correct, more often than not, they seem to drop behind you.
Ex Dive Kick > Ex Pinwheel seems to do about 190 dmg now because it doesn’t get most of the hits in.
I wonder if this made ultra 2 easier from Ex Dive Kick and j. HP more universal. Change seems to be for the worse in the case of Ex DK to Ex Pinwheel though.
Bounce trajectory is the same, your most likely training on Cody who bounces abnormally close Juri after hitting the wall.
Shit. And I knew that about Cody already too. I wanted to see his change in walk speed so I made him the Dummy.
That’s what happens when you play other games for two months. Back to the training room.
Scmp being 4 frames is not a problem. As long as it’s not 5 frames. I can rock with 4 frames. Plinking makes this really good.
Honestly. Wish a bum hand I still hit the link consistently without plinking.
Now fadc > scmp… I can’t hit. Haha. Just. Can’t use my hand. I’m sure it’s not hard.
I personally don’t think pinwheel fadc Into combo should be used for pure damage purposes. I feel like situations like blanka ball punishes aren’t a bad idea. But if you’re doing it for damage there are better ways to use your meter. Will have to test this further.
But really… Was a fireball charge that hard to hold? I always have one…
If you hold the fireball and do poke xx pinwheel FADC st.mp xx lk fireball xx cr.mk/mp xx pinwheel, with a jumpin the combo guarentees a 1 meter on completion and does 400 or so damage depending on what inital poke you use. Thats the most efficient way of doing a pinwheel FADC combo when you have a fireball.
Same thing applies to corner combos, start off with pinwheel FADC makes it better and do more damage.
cs.mp>hk pin>fadc>cs.mp>hk pinwheel is at least 300 damage it pushes your opponent a good ways towards the corner. Fireball fadc is great as in it gives you time to do what you want as follow up.
I haven’t really taken the time to work with pinwheel fadc and mike you bring up a great point it does a ton more damage. cs.mp pinwheel fadc pinwheel again will hurt a ton. Just gotta give it time i’m still sorting out what does x amount of damage. I only pick damaging combos and high stun combos for my juri.
Fireball combos don’t always work, pw fadc combos always works no matter the range or if it hits crouch/standing.
Been picking up Juri for awhile but typically have picked U2 because cr. MK -> Fireball FADC-> U2 is pretty strong and getting it off a fireball release in the corner is also nice. However, figure its finally worth learning U1 in some serious manner.
How do you do her unblockable in the corner? Heard it was Throw->Nuetral Jump->U1->j.HK but it seems to always hit crossup or be to early all together. Char specific or what?
4/5 Dash in FSE? Are you serious Capcom? I mean I’m glad 2012 is more stylish (Proof is in Desk’s latest video) but this buff is over the top… I swear, after having laid out the red carpet for Juri players with this buff, they’d better not pull it out from under us while I’m shufflin’
Just played for the first time yesterday, and was laughing as I picked FSE against Bison (punishing teleports and ex.PC with DASH).
cant punish ex pc with dash, even from point blank block the move isnt -19 let alone -22 which is what you would need to at least get a 1 frame punish.
the dash is too ridiculous. Like it helps close distance which is a good thing and you can os a ex pinwheel if you’re feeling ballsy because your opponent will try to poke you and ex pinwheel beat them.
@Skatan. Yeah mid screen fireball combos can whiff and you have to sometimes end them with a lk pin to extend the combo and damage but that’s a good thing in 2012 because you can fadc into cs.mp to extend the combo and damage. It’s both great combo extender and helps with the oki game for juri.
Fireball > dash = block string. Trololololol
you should actually do raw fireball release dash up pinwheel fadc cs.mp and just boss it man. Just don’t give a fuck!
Its not only a block string but spaced right and the dash goes under wakeup SRK’s and other kinds of reversals, on hit you get a combo.
When is the best time to equip ultra 2? I understand FSE is better but I have difficulty opening people up with those stuff so I don’t even mess with it.