John Nelson, Tournament Legacy, and Team HORI

Your suggestion is like telling someone if they’re unhappy with their Ford Taurus then they should start their own car company and make a car that is better than a Ford Taurus.

the real question is when is the world gonna get to see redrapper’s interview with that scumbag?

Wednesday Night Fights, West Coast Warzone, SoCal Regionals, The Runback, BoxArena say hi.

He hasn’t only done people wrong dude, he’s literally the driving force behind ripping people off and ruining lives and shit. Fight for Relief was a charity event to benefit people who suffered because of a major “japan is fucked” earthquake. John Nelson didn’t want to do something as simple as give an 10 digit number so they could have support from Hori because he was “upset” spooky was filming CEO. From a business perspective and even from the perspective of him being a fucking human being that’ makes you a piece of shit. OH! and after that he used footage from the event in his trailer which I had happened to shoot.

People are actively making their own events and doing their own shit. But just because people aren’t actively supporting a heroine dealer, doesn’t mean that he’s not going to start a lot of shit by coming into the neighborhood and dealing heroine. That make sense?

tonight. It’s from Run It Back. I’m gonna try to add commentary as to why he was so fucking stupid.

I don’t think that Gootecks is FChamp’s keeper.

He may only be one person, but he’s the person in charge of everything and that’s significant. If it was just one dude who had a relatively minor role then things would be different. How else do you protest something like this outside of denying them your patronage? It’s unfortunate that well-intentioned people have gotten caught up in this, but they will live and the community needs to make it clear that it’s not going to tolerate TOs who consistently fuck people over.

Stream off! Done! Thanks for the information and confirmation. Too bad I didn’t know about this in time to tell some buddies who went there.

So are you dealing with someone who consistently screws up and doesn’t know responsibility or the average conman?

Hope Champ got payed up front for pimpin them out the last two months.

So how does the CoD/ GoW community feel about Revelations/TL. Is the venue a problem for everyone and is the tournament organized poorly in all games?

Holy shit!!!

I had no idea.

Again, you are punishing literally hundreds of people for the actions of one person. Do they deserve it?

Wow, i had no idea there was someone in the FGC screwing people over like that. It’s good to see us banding together to try and fix things.

Seeing as champ said he got his money last time i can understand why he’s been promoting so hard, he justs wants people to enter so he can make another large payday lol

This guy majorly messed with SoCal’s smash scene a few years ago too, but I don’t follow tournaments outside of my location so I didn’t know this was going on. I think he was completely blacklisted from SoCal smash to where he changed the company name to get away from the bad reputation…

@redrapper, imo it’s never a good business practice to ever deal with people who don’t work with contracts. Contracts are your lifeline to where you are guaranteeing that you are going to get some sort of compensation, and where you can force them to pay you legally. It’s especially important to photographers/videographers/editors since you basically can’t prove anything without anything written down on paper.

This is like that whole Chick-fil-a controversy. So just because there are people working there you should still support it even if you disagree with the way the company works? It isn’t really about if the players/sponsors/etc deserve it or not. You’re allowed to not support something you don’t like.

For trusting a shady person?

They don’t “deserve” it, but they’ll have to live with the boycotting regardless.

It’s just…unlistenable. Yay for shitty voices and overused memes

we tried to warn people to not trust this man, who says we’re punishing the ones who didn’t listen?
they all got played, by him

I will agree that Nelson needs to be made an example of, but it does not need to be just him. That’s all I will say on the matter.

The punishment for those hundreds is temporary. For them, life will move on. I think that’s plenty justifiable in order to permanently punish John Nelson and TL.

Well, they don’t deserve it…but in order to get rid of cancer like this (based on what MULTIPLE people say, there HAS to be some sort of truth to it, at least), sometimes you have to unintentionally kill the healthy cells as well. In this case, Hazmat might get pinched a bit (probably a lot if this Nelson foo skipped their payment). Besides, why in the world so many people are skipping the event and even the KOF community boycotted the event?

About making a new tourny…there’s actually one, its call SoCal Regional 2011 (the one at UCI), it was clean, and (compare to 2010) much better run (Props to ETR and the people holding the tourny down), seriously, this guy need to get on the BAN list and make sure he can NEVER start another tourny and f-ed all types of gamers (the FPS was really meh, but esp the FGC) in general.

On another note: @redrapper, just like jankanpo said, what u went through really Sucks ass, but I really don’t know if you can get any money back (since you don’t have a written contract with this shitbag), but seriously, anyone that offer to do ANYTHING that involves over $100 without Contract is frigging shady to me anyway