I’m wiring one up and testing the directions in windows. But various directions just won’t work. And when I get one to work it’s always a diagonal on the stick but a regular direction on the screen.
I tried even just having one direction and ground set up and I still only get a working diagonal. How is that even possible with only one wire?
Has anyone ever seen anything like this before?
bmckay
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Are you absolutely sure the ground is on the right terminal?
LLeg3nd
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could the pin connector be upside down?
Swapping the ground and the button makes nothing happen.
I tried doing the other side (it’s a 2 player panel) and I was getting the same thing. I did some swapping and go left and it’s related diagnols to work but none of the other directions currently work at all.
I don’t understand why they seem to be effecting each other. I thought the directions were all their own signal, since a hit box works via seperate buttons.
The black is ground right?
Would the pin even matter upside down? Ground is in the middle.
Okay after excessive swapping black totally isn’t ground. I think I’ve solved this. =x
Pin orientation does matter to an extent, as it does affect the directions and the appropriate wiring. However Ground is not in the middle. That may be the mistake you have. Check this photo and pay attention to your orientation of the PCB:
Also as you can see there are two different wiring harnesses: Sanwa and Seimitsu. Even though they accomplish the same task you may refer to a wire as black and it could correspond to one of the two.
something similar happened to me because the stupid ground wire was red not black. find the ground wire, then 1 by 1 test each wire in each direction. eventually you will get them all working.
this exact same thing with the diags happened to me, most likely you have the wrong cable in ground.
Did you have your pin header upside down? I haven’t had a stock cable have reversed colors before so thats new to me.
To the OP. If need be you can take off your gate and look at the PCB itself to determine which pin is which by following the trace and which terminal it touches and trace it to the corresponding pin. Of course testing for continuity with a multimeter is more efficient. The trace that is the widest and touches one pin from every microswitch is ground. However when looking at the PCB from the bottom, be sure to check which switch is engaged from the given direction before wiring it. IIRC if you look at your JLF PCB from the bottom, the left and right microswitch are still left and right, but up and down microswitch correspond to the opposite. But whenever in doubt check the picture above.
GND is not in the middle on a JLF. It sounds like to me that you’re using a Seimitsu colour coded joystick harness and not an original Sanwa harness.
No. Ground is NOT the Middle Pin.
If looking at the pin connector whole its facing you (joystick right side up) Ground is the Right Most Pin like what Pnoy Pryde has in the chart he posted.
Seimitsu uses different wire colors than Sanwa, anyways the color of the wire does not matter, its the pin position that mattered.
In the past I had some harnesses that match nether color scheme.
In that case follow Pnoy Pryde’s advice to test out each pin.
The harness that came with the JLF doesn’t match that diagram and the harness I bought from focus attack doesn’t match it either.
Really dumb it doesn’t come with any directions.
The wire harness I got from FA was different from the sanwa/seimitsu verison too. On the FA website it should say on the product page which wire is ground.
If you notice the “incorrect” colors of the FA JLF harnesses are marked down significantly from the actual JLF harness costs.
Wire colors are not important, which pin each wire goes to is important.
Also like any other part store, FA assumes that their customers understand enough basic electricity to correctly wire a harness in place.
They should not have to provide directions or provide a guide or key to what wire colors are what. Colors are always arbitrary.
I always like to each people here at Tech Talk, to DO NOT EVER TRUST ANYONE ELSE WIRE COLOR DIAGRAMS EVER, instead learn how to use a multimeter, find out what each pin does and go from there and drawl your own conclusions of what color wire goes where. I got Joystick wire harnesses before that all the wires where black and I seen USB cables use the “incorrect” wire colors before. I got a USB cable once that was Brown +5 volts, Grey D-, Orange D+ and Blue Ground .
Do not think of it as :
UP - ORANGE
DN - RED
LT - YELLOW
RI - GREEN
GND - BLACK
Think of it as
UP - 1
DN - 2
LT - 3
RI - 4
GND - 5
That how I wired my last joystick together. But I really do need to get a multimeter. And I didn’t say the FA harness was bad just different than the sanwa/seimitsu for obvious reasons.
