Thanks I hope he does put more stuff up. I am going to go home and try these set ups.
Yeah definitely. So the Seth one is an unblockable?
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I wonder if it could work against sagat too. I’m gonna play around with this when I get home
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no, he just whiffs and crosses up. Dammit… i don’t like using the whiff c.mp after slide press against sagat because he can block the j.hk and reversal tiger uppercut before you can block string him with lp. c.mp is only good if you know he’s going to wakeup reversal.
Yeah, i noticed this the other day, really sucks.
Can uncrouchable Oil Dive setups be backdashed, as a general rule? Will they beat most DPs or at least make them whiff? If not, can you delay the dive to make it catch the DP?
Wow that’s retarded. And my main is Seth…
Yeah, they can be backdashed. There are setups referred to as SS Oil Dives, which will catch DPs as well as being uncrouchable, but they’re a little harder to do. But yeah totally, you could delay it and catch the DP.
The unblockable certainly will change that matchup, for those who know about it anyway. Such a tough one for Hakan.
was just watching the Jap Hakan popular committee videos lol
1 effective setup they use is:
[ dive (into corner) > lp.sliding > j.hk ]
-i think the j.hk is a safe cross up and then lands in front. ( just like magos fei j.mp setup)
this is pretty good to use, definitely xcopy!
Oh yeah I’ve seen an arcade Hakan do this, works really well in the left corner. I don’t think it hits meaty so the opponent can jump out, but I’m not sure if you’ll get hit with reversal DP. Needs testing.
is that seth set up specifically when you’re un-oiled?
Yeah. Doesn’t work when you’re oiled, you’ll just jump over his head.
That makes oiling up against him a little less important then…
Drew, you’re from Scotland right? nice to see someone british nailing an obscure character!! your videos are very good.
Yeah definitely, all you need is one unoiled knockdown and you can keep looping this over and over. He can teleport but that gets punished easily.
Yeah, I’m Scotlands only representation of Hakan, haha. To be honest, the UK in general has very few Hakan players, and the guys who do you use him aren’t taking him to the next level. I honestly feel like I’m out on my own if you know what I mean. I need more people to step up.
Thanks, glad you’ve been enjoying them!
i play a seth fairly regularly as well.
well i’m glad someone is, I’d love to say i would step up as well (if i’m pointed in the right direction i’ll try my hardest too!), but i’m a mediocore player at best i just flipping love playing!! now i know where to turn for hakan tips!ha.
So quiet around here…
I wish I had the videos but I’ve been watching some EBI vids recently on Xbox live, and I’ll tell you, that guy has got the midscreen Jump HK cross up down completely. I saw him last month do it against ibuki, thought it was just one of those things, but yesterday I watched a recent replay and he was doing the same thing, landing the cross up each time. I never thought it would be possible, but he’s completely ditched the mp safe jump setup in favor of the crossup. It’s the small step > jump HK variation.
Something to keep a note of, very interesting.
for some of the characters that doesnt have a reliable** [ normals-whiff to time the safe-j.hk/j.mk ]** (eg ibuki, viper and cammy), i think EBI’s slight twitch > j.hk works well.
I tried this after i was so frustrated vs the bitches (namely ibuki & viper) as they can get away with anything so easy, and this actually works nicely (after some practice of course). Though its hard to get it down 100% but its good enough now to have this sticky pressure on ibuki and viper afte knockdown as a threat.
Hmm I’ve never had a problem with the Cammy safejump setup using st.mp. Something I’m missing? I guess there’s been the odd time it’s whiffed on her. Yeah EBI seems to have got the timing down for it pretty well so it must be possible. Viper is pretty irritating safejump wise so it could prove very useful.
cammy
not for cammy. ibuki/cammy/viper are all the irregular ones that non of the normals would be timed perfect for the safe-j.hk.
meaning it can easily whiff or reversaled.
Having said this tho, in my own experience as well, i believe the hit box on Cammy is not as weird/skinny as ibuki and viper.
so i wouldnt be surprised that you think s.mp works. cause i use s.lk > slight twitch forward > j.hk, which gave me high success.
hello, i’m collecting kara throw data for all of AE 2012’s characters, i don’t know how much of the information here is outdated, so i wanted to ask: what’s hakan’s best kara throw?
all of the data will be compiled into a list including normal throw ranges, added ranges and kara throw ranges.
