Is hitting your kids ok?

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Look man, if you do not get it how EVERYTHING plays into this then do not post. If they are not your kids but you are “doing the best with them that I can” then at the very least you could see how someone would say you are just not cutting it? Had you wanted the kids might your views on some things be different? Had they been your kids and not family (or what ever your situation is) would you “parent” differently? Everything plays into it, and when your views do not make sense or even match up to 24 years of life experience, people will respond. I just so happen to actually be in the position to say something that makes sense.

Your age is an issue because you are a child and are not ready to have children (so stated by you) which is clear in the way you post. Why would I say, “if you started at 16-20?” because it is clear (to me at least) that you did not ever start having kids, that you have not yet become a father, that you are doing a sub par job of being a caregiver and your views will/would be much different if you had 4 children that share you exact DNA and a wife that looks to you to make damn sure that your family is in the proper respects in society.

I did not judge you but the statement you made about raising anything… 8 years worth of work and they are raised? Really? 4 years with a 16-20 year old and they are raised? I mean do you really believe that? Do you want more for children than “doing the best with them that I can?” Is that really all we can ask for out of society? Would you not take all the years back to actually be prepared to be in the position you are in now?

Do you and be glad that you are you… Yes, I am entitled, but I still read and nothing you have said makes light as to why you are posting in this thread trying to tell someone how to parent/care give when you post things like the underlined.

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LMFAO, Tanner i normally dont agree with you cause for the most part you always play devil advocate. I know there are other things that go into being a parent but me beating my child if they act up isnt my end all be all. Its just a part thats all I was saying.

Its not omg kid is not doing what i want out comes the belt–nah fam its only a small part.

You choose to not strike your child thats cool. Im not saying you are dumb for doing that shit those are your kids.
Me for a certain amount of time will beat my kids if they act up.

All the factors that go into parenting its bascailly a roll of the dice.

Now the trayvon martin shit c’mon Tanner what if your child ends up being the Trayvon Martin. No way you would be cool with well I wish my Son would’ve just answered that stalker that asked him where he was walking to.

Will you teach your kids to not talk to strangers or teach your children to answer everybody that asks them questions regardless of the situation?

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For all the studies showing the tremendous disadvantages facing kids coming out of teenaged parent homes, I think a spanking here or a slap there is the last thing you should be mouthing off about.

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Why does everyone who replies to me try to minimize what I say? I never said there was a problem with spanking (as long as its backed by complete emotional control); I said there is a problem with beating your children. For instance, I do not perceive Rodimus’ example of using a belt in favor of an open hand to be ‘beating’ one’s children (again, so long as controlled; you’re only trying to inflict pain, after all).

As for my situation, you don’t need to patronize me with studies; I know the disadvantages quite clearly, and if I could trust CPS to do their job and take proper care of these children, I probably wouldn’t be doing it myself. I did not ask for this situation; I merely stepped up to plate.

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So wait you were 16 taking caring of someone’s child? How were you able to go to school? How were you able to watch them when you sleep? Did you even have money to support them? This sounds like total bullshit…I think sounds more like yeah i did babysitting when i was 16…

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The answer to this question and so many more can be found within the wisdom of your own posts Dr. Spock.

Lol, congratulations on your illegal adoption(s) then.

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I think its funny when someone says they have raised children but the child/children he or she is talking about are still kids, probably not older than my oldest daughter of 13. Even if my daughter was 16 or 17 I wouldn’t say “Ive raised my children…”, I say “im raising my children…”. Its not over till they are 18 or older and can move out on their own and support themselves.

p.s. this new age pussery is fuckin’ sick man. Parents not doing anything but talking to their kids and rewarding them for doing bad or good. Its like that in every aspect of a childs life now. You got a D in science? Here is 10 bucks instead of the 50 you would have got for an A. Your baseball team got spanked 20-0? Lets go have ice cream. You arent going to clean your room like I told you? Well, then, instead of two games this month you only get one. Fuck that crap.

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Here is the rules of Spanking
#1. Don’t spank in anger. If you are pissed calm down before you spank them.
#2. Never threaten to spank then not do it. What that teaches kids is punishment is random.
#3. If you spank them and later find out they didn’t deserve it, admit it an apologize.
#4 Never hit their face, never use a fist, don’t use objects, don’t pinch. Open hand swat on the butt only.
#5. Don’t spank in public, either let them know they are getting their ass whooped when you get home
or use pressure points. You don’t know the laws of what town you happen to be in and some dickhead
will call the cops. A good pressure point is behind the earlobe close to where the jaw meets the skull.
You just kneel down and it looks like you are holding there face but you are pressing on the points with your
index or middle fingers. For about the next two weeks all you have to do is point at them and they behave.
#6 Make sure your kids are sleeping and eating real food not shit. Almost all behavior problems are related
to lack of sleep or good food. My 11 year old daughter was spanked as she was growing up, But I only had to do
it maybe 10 times.
#7. If someone is trying to tell you your kid is ADHD and wants to dope your kid up, run. The drugs they prescribe
is the same shit Johnny Cash was addicted to. Feed the kids right and beat dat ass.
#8 If you believe that spanking is wrong please use condoms because the rest of us are getting sick of being mugged by
your out of control little bastards.

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ForteZanzo said: ↑
Why does everyone who replies to me try to minimize what I say?

This is what I have seen over and over again in this thread… People with bullshit ideas and bullshit experience as an actual father/mother, wondering why others do not understand what they think/are saying.

Probably because what you think is incomplete and terribly flawed.

This topic should not be up for debate, and if it was, this would be the dead last demographic that people should be looking for solid opinions from.

Close this topic please. No good is to come of another page and nothing good has come from the first four pages… Save my posts and the little bit of back on topic this page has gotten to. Either way we do not have enough parents to actually hold a decent conversation about this. Just high school drop outs that care for (and I use that term very loosely) 4 family members because he could not pawn them off on the state…

You can now see how this thread is never going to amount to shit, other than stupid stories and people wondering how others really care for young people under their supervision.

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My point? I’m still waiting for you to post your expert parenting techniques that have no negative impact down the road.

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My entire family are psychologists and psychiatrists. My sister. My aunts and uncles. A LOT of my family. Trust me, ADHD is no joking matter. They’ve been after me for years to start taking meds, and I kinda am starting to agree with them. I’m a fucking sketchbag without them.

Sure Johnny Cash was addicted to it. But he wrote such great songs.

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So you’ll argue semantics here, but not on the ‘beating’ term? Ok.

If your child is still in need of ‘raising’ past 16, then you probably fucked up somewhere. I assume that like myself you are American in saying this, to which I retort with the reality that much of the world sees an adult at 16, including a number of states here. Anything past such is just legal arbitration.

But no, you shouldn’t be ‘raising’ your child past 16. Aiding them, perhaps, but not ‘raising’; by such a point, you ought to have already imparted upon them a sense of right and wrong, in addition to family values. The rest is up to them as far as making a life for themselves, and you financially aiding them from there is not ‘raising’ them.

Except I haven’t minimized anyone’s word. People keep talking about ‘beating’, ‘beating their asses’, etc, and I’m calling bullshit on them. If they don’t mean what they say, they ought to be the ones rephrasing.

School? Couldn’t very well do that at the time, could I? Thankfully, I’ve since gotten my GED and some college under my belt.

Money? Barely. Even harder to scrounge it together without taking up work that’d keep me away from the apartment.

Sleep? What sleep I did get was with them asleep. You act like I had to deal with four newborns.

You can think it’s bull or w/e; I’ve nothing to prove here except how I feel about child abuse, which has nothing to do at all with having raised these kids.

Nothing you said was any better than any other shit flung around here; do not be so pompous.

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You sound like a moron. Beating kids is not ok. Spanking kids is. I think most times when someone says “beating” what they really mean is “spanking”. I’ll say something like “I had to beat the shit outa my kid for doing whatevers” What I mean is that I had to give one of them a spanking.

My children will still be in high school at the age of 16. They will just be getting licenses. Part of my job raising these children is that they learn how to drive eventually. So, even at the age of 16 im still raising them. Not to mention I’ll probably still be supporting them financially and begin teaching them about getting a job and such things. Once again, raising kids does not end till they leave the house and can support themselves. If/when that happens it means I did a good job.

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Everyone get those high boots…

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I think this guy confuses raising a child and providing for a child. I think he thinks providing for them, you know food on the table, roof over head, clothes on back is raising them. Everything else they should just learn on their own. Im sure as far as he is concerned a father that has absolutely nothing to do with his children but pays child support is raising his children. lmao what a tool

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How nickguy got punished by his parents

Dad: "Nick were you fighting at school? WERE YOU?!?!

Nick: Yes *Crying *voice cracks I was

Dad: Well you know the punishment.HONEY, GET THE DREAMCAST THIS BOY NEED HIS LESSON!! YOU NICK, GET YOUR ARCADE STICK!! WE playin a first to ten. Your allowance for 5 months. You aren’t allowed to use Cable or any top tiers. I’ll use MSP.

Nick *Bursts out crying I WANNA USE CABLE!!! I WANT MY ALLOWANCE

Dad: Should have thought about that before you went and started fighting. You are free now.

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Hitting?
No.

Disciplining?
Yes.

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Problem with the “if you don’t have kids, you have no business talking about it” logic: it assumes that having business talking about it hedges on whether or not you have kids.

There is a god damn shitload of parents who have no business assuming expertise on child-rearing, and you don’t have to be a parent to recognize those people.

I also have to assume there are a lot of scientists–bonafide experts–who have conducted controlled studies on the effectiveness of various child-rearing techniques, who very well might not have children themselves. This does not diminish their credibility or the quality of their work in the slightest. I’m more interested in what they have to say than the “kids are dumb because their parents don’t hit them” and “I got hit by my parents and I turned out great” crowd.

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did superman ever get spank?

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Yes.