Ironman in depth

BeaTs · February 10, 2009, 7:29am

cool, lemme know if you have any questions

I can try recording some of this stuff soon…when I get my recorder thingy. I know I’m not the best poster/my posts tend to be hard to read

you can also bring non-giant characters down from the top in 3 reps of unfly…but I’m still on the fence on doing that particular combo because you need to maneuever yourself RIGHT ON the opponent to be able to combo after the neutral fiercexxaddf…if just slightly off, it doesn’t combo…maneuvering isn’t hard, but still

cr.lk, cr.mp, st.hk, sj.lp, sj.lk, sjup+hp, sj.up+hk, aduf, sj.lk, sj.up+hpxxfly (maneuever uf), f.lk, f.up+hpxxunfly, n+hpxxaddf, sj.lk, sj.up+hpxxfly, f.lk, f.up+hpxxunfly, up+hpxxadf, sj.lp, sj.up+hpxxfly (maneuever again), f.lk, f.up+hpxxunfly, n+hpxxaddf, sj.lk, sj.up+hp, land, reg.infinite

I’m still messing around to do a 2 rep unfly sequence from top of screen on non-giants…doesn’t seem possible though

System_1 · February 12, 2009, 7:49pm

Cool

BeaTs · February 19, 2009, 8:52am

If anyone cares here’s a vid of mine with the different combos I was talking about a few posts up

[media=youtube]ul_F3WyS-c0[/media]

Mixup · February 19, 2009, 11:44am

nice video!

tryin to learn ironguy so that helps:lovin:

BeaTs · February 19, 2009, 12:00pm

thanks

IM is perfectly cheap, soo good

I just realized I forgot to put the fierce unfly combo in there. maybe for another vid, possibly in a vid displaying what THE GENTLEMAN (or da gents [magneto/IM/doom]) can do

where’d you find that picture! I’ve been trying to look for an IM pic for a new avatar but only find the same Ironman movie pics…and here you have this cool one. bah

Mixup · February 19, 2009, 1:27pm

check out deviantart, worth registering…:wgrin:

mag/im/psy is all of the worst parts of marvel on one team:sweat::wasted:

SF_PHOCUS · February 19, 2009, 8:53pm

the timing on the atg looks super strict lol…

No more MSP mixup? lol:looney:

BeaTs · February 19, 2009, 8:56pm

oh ok, I’ll check it out. I’m already registered as an artist on there.

for a really annoying defensive team, IM/sent/psy is pretty ugh. I don’t play it but my friend does. he does not have the best IM, but he has really good defense. trying to rush against that is a chore…it’s like the storm/sent/psy shit, but with a probably more defensive character and any psy hit = death.

bah

Phocus: the timing isn’t strict, you just gotta mess around with all of IMs normals and see the great properties/hitstun they have. I tried explaining it earlier up…but neutral HP is your friend…when you hit with it when it doesn’t cause flying screen (unfly or connecting launcher on airborne op.) they are in stun UNTIL they hit the ground. use air LKs to pick them up (wait a bit longer to chain a hit to pick them up a bit more if needed)

only strict thing in the vid is positioning on doom/cable-like characters midscreen. everything else is pretty lenient.

Mixup · February 20, 2009, 12:23am

msp is always that #1

I just like drunken starks as my fun teams

BeaTs · February 20, 2009, 9:43pm

quick vid for unfly fierces

[media=youtube]6eNHzZXFxuo[/media]

System_1 · March 31, 2009, 4:41pm

Why isn’t this thread a sticky?

tech_master · April 12, 2009, 1:49am

hell yes, thats a great team.

BeaTs · April 12, 2009, 10:13am

like Combofiend, it’s good in pretty much any order also

max_85 · April 24, 2009, 9:30am

wow this thread is nice, im trying to pick IM up, and this is really helping me, thanks guys!!!

System_1 · May 17, 2009, 6:40pm

I have two questions:

In order to block PC do you have to block before the flash?

And also what’s a good mid-screen guard break?

Green · May 17, 2009, 10:27pm

If Iron Man is on point and does PC, you have to block before the flash. If it’s a DHC, you should be able to block during.

BeaTs · May 19, 2009, 8:21pm

the 3 midscreen GBs I use are

nj forward (usually after a wavedash), j.up+hp, land, infinite

sj. adf lp, up+hp. I usually like to launch, sj.n+hp, addf, sj.lk mk, up+hp, land, infinite. be careful not to launch if they took both hits because flying screen will come into effect…

nj forward, j.lp, j.up+hp, land infinite

BeaTs · June 23, 2009, 9:42am

so has anyone been messing around with the combos in the vid…and figured out how to bring anyone (cept servbot? didn’t try) from the top of the screen to ground infinite with only 1 rep of unfly yet? :wgrin:

you could probably figure it out easy…if you haven’t already or haven’t tried yet…

EDIT: DAMN, totally forgot to mention it’s in the corner! lol. sounded too good

MagnetoManiac · August 15, 2009, 7:58am

tech_master:

didnt have room to post in the original post. so i’ll hide the combos everyones lookin for right here.

Both Combos are basically 1 rep, of a 2 rep semi-infinite. Learn whats in the brackets, and performing it two times in a row should get you setup for the jumping infinite.

Begin the combos after:
a) a launch /\ lp, lk, U+HP
b) anytime you catch them in a high super jump (thats not too high) with a U+HP

On Sentinel:
[FLY, f.lk, f.U+HP, unfly, DOWN+HP, adDOWN FOWARD, lk, U+HP xx FLY, f.lk, f.U+HP xx unfly, U+HP, AIR DASH FOWARD, lp, U+HP]x2, LAND, jumping infinite.

On Normal Sized characters:
[FLY, f.lk, f.U+HP xx unfly, U+HP, ad/DOWN FOWARD U+HP xx FLY, f.lk, f.U+HP xx unfly, U+HP, ad/FOWARD, lp, U+HP]x2, LAND, jumping infinite.

there are easier ways off a launch, but those are the required combos if you catch somebody randomly with a sj. move in the air.

Most Damaging off a Launch:(this one isn’t a two rep infinite)
launch /\ U+HP, ADUF, U+HP, U+HK xx fly, f.U+HP xx unfly, U+HP, ADF(x), U+HP xx fly, f.lk, f.U+HP xx, unfly, U+HP, adf, lp, U+HP xx FLY, f.lk, f.U+HP xx unfly, U+HP, adf, lp, U+hp, LAND, jumping infinite.

(x)means it crosses up. You can use a LP instead of the following HP. Delay the LP and it resets the combo. VERY good reset/mixup. The combo, if you noticed, has 7 FIERCES IN A ROW. 9/10 of the first 10 attacks are FIERCES, SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH DAMAGE. flips off magnetos 5 fierce

Note:
-all the combos end the same way, so if they are not low enough (or i forgot to put in a rep) then do another rep of [fly, f.lk (or lp), U+HP xx unfly, U+HP, ad/Foward, lp, U+hp]
-Any time you [UNFLY, U+hp] delay the HP as late as possible to ensure opponent falling far enough
-if you really want to win, and both opponents are grounded, c.lk, c.mp xx fly, f.lk, f.U+HP xxunfly, U+HP is still the easisest setup for the jumping infinite. my combos are for DAMAGE, and/or if you caught them in the air.

let me know if i missed a REP of anything. i feel like a retard and lose my attention when i try to picture each move in my head and if it brings them to the ground.

Nice post, thanks for the info.

I saw [media=youtube]03ioB7sKfYk&feature=channel_page[/media] and noticed he only uses fierces until he’s low to the ground. I think that, either it’s super hard on Cable, or that it should be noted in that video that it’s only on Psylocke-like characters with the hit box. Because I think of my execution as decent, and can’t get this shit fully on Cable with only fierces when not in flight mode.

Damn, learning Iron Man is like relearning the game…but I’m up for it :karate:

BeaTs · August 15, 2009, 8:01am

nope, it works on everyone (except giants really)

check out my youtube for some easier variations against giants/in corner.

actually, I only used fierce until the online lag messed me up. if you time it right you don’t need to dash forward. I usually just do fierces.

also, you probably just need to change your timing. f.lk, f.upFPxxUNFLY, wait a tad, upFP, addf (wait even more of a tad[or is it LESS of a tad? regardless, wait just a little less than before lol]) upFPxxFLY, fast fly forward a bit, repeat.