Well i saw it opening day in imax 2-d. Halfway through the movie, where he picks up the poncho, we had a 30 min power outage. I was into it up until that. I stayed and watched it but the ending left me kinda salty. I blamed the power outage. I decided to watch it again on a smaller screen with my old man. Ive got to say i enjoyed the movie this time. sure the ending isnt what i would want it to be but, it was a cohesive movie. It tied in into the prior movies, and did very little to set up any future movies (read: very open ended) which considering all the casting issues that are going on was probably the smartest move. My gripes? Here: Iron Patriot-used more as a plot device than a character. The sugar coating of PTSD. Not enough Mandarin speak on screen. Likes: really good cgi. The Mandarin-the way it was used, how it has a parallel with current events, the voice. AH-Murrica. Brilliant. Unibeam-yeah that was cool. All in all i can see everybodys gripes, but between Nolans batman and RDJ iron man, these are the new standards that comic book movies should be held to. When you look at IM 1-3 alone without seeing any of the other MCU movies, they hold up. Tony grows as a person, iron man goes from a tech feat to almost outclassed tech (as any technology would irl). You know when the “comic book version” of the Mandarin would have gone over nicely? the 80’s. Before china had everybodys money balls in a vise. Was IM3 over hyped? Not imo, just the right amount, as it was said i was more excited to see RDJ play himself onscreen than the whole “OMG ITS ANOTHER IM movie, A2 SETUPS BROSEPH”.
I enjoyed it. I probably won’t be in a hurry to see it again, but it was a nice little filler chapter in the summer movie season.
RDJ’s still a riot as Tony Stark. These movies are fucked if he and Marvel fail to “renegotiate”.
Another thing–those members attempting to give an explanation for Stark’s immense foolishness, by saying the character is naturally impulsive and selfish? Theres a difference between being impulsive/selfish and being TOO STUPID TO LIVE.
IM3’s stark was clearly written to be the latter. Forget the Manderine, given enough time IM3 stark would’ve probably blown his face off in a lab accident or something.
Jarvis: “Uhhh sir? Its been 16 hours since you dared the world’s foremost terrorist to attack you. Shouldn’t we be working on a backup plan?”.
Stark: “Yeah, how about no? Back-up plans are for sissys…and i’m also an idiot. Cross that bridge when we come to it”
Didn’t this happen right around April the 1st? Was hoping it was all a bad joke…
Bitch you gave a pass to IM2, shut the fuck up.
IM2 had issues too but overall, it was much better written, executed, and a more worthy sequel than the POS that was IM3. So 'tis you who can STFU.
IM2 was bad. It was a bungled mess that was just a setup for the Avengers movie. It had some moments but it was hardly the worthy sequel. Fuck outta here with that stupidity.
How is that? The movie, just in terms of linear progression of Tony Stark’s story fell flat. I thought it was pretty decent and was worth paying to see, but it was more about The Avengers setup than the journey of Stark. At the core, IM3 at least addressed his internal struggle. How did Tony Stark (as a character) improve in-between movies:
Iron Man: A pompous genious, billionaire and playboy whose life was turned upside down by his capture from a failed hit to initiate a corporate coup d’etat. In desperation during capture, creates a suit of armor to escape. From this experience, he finds in his heart purpose to live, becomes a “less” self centered person, and decides to be a defender of the free world using his ingenuity.
Iron Man 2: Tony is now a self proclaimed hero but has the problem of the power source keeping him alive is killing him. Through the movie he is forced to solve the mystery behind his father’s work that ultimately saves his life. Tony Stark cures his ailment and with this new element becomes a better and stronger Iron Man!
The Avengers: Tony Stark is recruited for the to assist shield with the Tesseract location effort. While in reality this is the Avengers Initiative recruitment drive by Nick Fury, the group goes through the 4 stages of team building throughout the movie. Upon the death of a common thread between all of the heroes, Stark understands that he’s not a soldier, but a just a man. The group is assembled for the final act with the threat of nuclear strike on the city. Stark is made aware of the attack, and knows he is the only one to save the city. He makes the sacrifice play to save the day. At the end stark is seen with Pepper starting the rebuilding process for Stark Tower.
Iron Man 3: After the events of New York, Stark experiences PTSD knowing that he almost didn’t make it out of that situation. Tony is also now deeply in love with Pepper and she is the reason for him being so protective. His love is driving his obsession to protect Pepper and to cope with the NY events, he creates additional armors. Enemies are introduced that seek to take everything he has, friends, his home, his R8, etc. Everything that brings him peace and confidence is removed and is now required to use his wit to make due. The events of the movie force Tony to make due without the armor as his main resource and realizes that all along it’s just a shell of what is inside. He is now at peace with who he is and with our without the suit, he is “Iron Man”
In all 3 out of the 4 movies, Tony grows as a character. Iron Man 2, nothing really changes him to become something “more” outside of better tech.
IM2 completely stops for around half an hour to do Avengers set up, he’s upstaged in his own movie by forced plot progression for a completely different movie, so no IM2 is a terrible fucking sequel, and you continue to prove you have completely shit taste in movies.
STFU.
IM2 and IM3 both sucked.
^Winner
Most of these modern superhero movies fall within a very narrow dynamic range of quality. Perhaps some of them are awesome and some of them suck strictly in relation to each other, but otherwise there’s not much differentiation. They’re mostly pretty good.
Agreed, and love that Avatar!
IM2 is a good film, it isn’t classic like the first one but it was enjoyable in certain spots and probably had the best showing of the James Rhodes character in any of the 3 films. Can’t say it is better or worst then IM3 as I haven’t seen it in over a year but I consider it a fine film even if it is only slightly better then Thor and Incredible Hulk in terms of the Marvel movies.
So basically if I didn’t like IM2, I shouldn’t watch IM3?
I thought IM2 was pretty bad.
That’s not true. Both Marvel and Fox have the movie rights for both characters.
What direction? Who are you to deem which ‘direction’ the trilogy, or for that matter, the MCU, is to take?
Marvel’s movies have one direction: outward. Outward into other movies, games, toys, and other bric-a-brac. To suggest that they’re building toward some sort of overarching set of themes or cohesive statement about this universe and the characters it is a delusion.
The best thing you can say about the first and (to a lesser extent) third Iron Man movie is that even though you know they’re essentially just fragments in an elaborate marketing scheme, they still have a personality. Unlike, say, The Incredible Hulk, which was almost self-consciously done with as little distinctiveness as possible.
ALAS, I shall smite thee:
Haha I’d never seen that but it was pretty spot on. Thank you.
I don’t agree with everything in that trailer, especially with the tech, but he sum it up perfectly. The whole plot of the movie is a 40 year old easter egg that just happened to be sitting there. No real conflict between the characters, and a bunch of Avengers setup. Worst movie of all time, by all means no. I found it to be somewhat enjoyable, but to say that it trumps IM3 is out of line.