Into The Badlands - Discussion Thread

I may be the only one who feels bad for MK. Ya seem to forget this all started with a young teen just trying to reunite with his moms and get back home. But ends up captured by bandits then discovered by Sunny.

Then he ends up having Quinn using him as a weapon. Captured again by abbots who go on to force him to stay at their place. Trick him into thinking he killed his own moms. Then gets held prisoner by Widow in her effort to reawaken his gift and use him as a weapon. Then discovers that the one adult in this world that has been looking out for him. The one man he looks up to. Is the one who killed his moms. That shit sent him over the edge.

And then here comes Pilgrim. And despite his evil ambitions. He was the one adult that gave MK the freedom to actually choose whether to join him or not. No manipulation, no bullshit. Just told him what he wants to do and are u down with that? And at that point with everyone basically having betrayed him in some way. The decision to go to the dark side was all to easy to make.

Yeah at the end of the day it was his decision to do the things he did for Pilgrim. But ya can’t deny that Sunny, Widow etc were the deciding factor in his choice to join Pilgrim. RIP MK. Poor kid was a product of a fucked up world and navigated it the best he could. But a kid can only get hurt so many times before they decide to start being the one who inflicts the pain.

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I agree fucked up circumstances but I still can’t forgive emo based heel turns. Besides in the end he still never amounted to his own force or character which in a work of fiction based on conflict is basically being worst then a audience surrogate.

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You make solid points, but MK in the last 2 seasons wasn’t a child anymore. I wasn’t mad at his vendetta against Sunny, and it’s obvious by Sunny’s persistent reluctance to kill him that he was in the right, but if we looked at other characters like The Widow, Moon, and even Tilda (who is also an orphan around MK’s age BTW) all had single-minded grudges, and even they at some point managed to look past their own strife or code eventually.

MK internalized his grief and then joined pre-crisis Pilgrim, ok that’s fine. But once Pilgrim turned into a genocidal megalomaniac hell bent on burning the whole world down he didn’t even waver in his loyalty. MK had not an ounce of introspection that maybe this was defeating the entire purpose of his crusade and ended up being a part of the same massacres Sunny committed. Like he didn’t think if his mother was still alive, would she be forced to become a dark one or be slaughtered?

The Widow did him a favor by killing him because it was obvious that he was going to be damaged goods forever. Same goes for Quinn, even when they try to do right they’re just so messed up that end up doing more damage in the process.

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To me I always felt like they wanted to do more with MK than just turn him into some mindless anger induced puppet. In season 1 I was under the impression that he would be Sunny’s legacy. But no he turned out to be a major cunt for 2 seasons lol.

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Pretty much this. At first he was okay, and tolerable, however after awhile, I just started to dislike him because he came off bratty, whiny and then as you so elegantly put it…a cunt. At that point, I just wanted his character to be removed.

I’m really hoping that someone picks up the series because the door is now truly open for so many new things. My hope is that we are taken out of the Badlands once more, possibly another part of the “old US” since it’s supposed to take place hundreds of years here anyway.

Great finale, gonna miss the wifey.

Gutted Nathaniel (woah the actor is 60!?) didn’t get to go home with the girl.

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How the fuck is that guy 60 wow lol

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You know the old adage— “Black don’t crack.”

Actually a thought that came to me was that even if a live action continuation of the series doesn’t get greenlit, the showrunners could pitch an animated version of the series, picking up where the finale left off. The same actors could be used to voice their own characters and everything. Having the show animated would also give them some creative freedoms for the fight scenes and locations.

Into the Badlands: TAS, with OG Madhouse-level animation would be so good…

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The writers screwed up MK’s character. It’s okay to feel sorry for him, but his life and decision making has too many similarities to Sonny’s own. Sonny is only on the “good guy” side coincidentally, writer’s really shouldn’t have made MK lose his shit over Sonny killing his mother.

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How can he not lose his shit, that’s the only whining I actually accept from him. But then they need to talk it out.

He can be angry for a time but he basically forgot that it’s the same person that saved him and took care of him in the Badlands. He doesn’t have to like him but he should understand the circumstances. But yeh, he is a child.

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The last 8 episodes of Season 3 that aired in 2019 are now on Netflix USA

I’ve never watched the show but it’s going to be nice to see the whole thing from start to finish.

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Enjoy fam. I think you’ll like it. If you are into redheads the Widow is :heart_eyes:

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I just finished watching Into the Badlands last night. (I started on Dec 13 but family gatherings/travel stretched it out a bit)

SPOILERS…

Pros:

I loved the martial arts and fights. This was some of the best I’ve seen n a Tv show since Daredevil.

The locations and costume design were awesome too! Ireland is a beautiful country.

I liked how the morality was grey for many of the characters. There were rarely fully good or fully evil characters. Everyone’s allegiances shifted so much to serve their goals unlike many shows where the alignment is pretty set and its a rare thing if someone goes bad etc.

Even the minor characters were developed and not just mute henchmen. I was surprised to be invested in characters like Lydia and Tilda when I first started watching.

Cons:

I was really disappointed by M.K’s arc especially in Season 3. He feels betrayed by Sunny , Widow, and Master but once he joins Pilgrim and despite his actions growing more unstable sticks by him. Also, he doesnt even see/interact with Sunny in the final battle. WTF! I’m glad they killed him than redeem him at the eleventh hour.

What happened to Waldo in S3? Wheelchair vanish!

The third season feels really rushed despite being the longest. It feels like they filmed everything and were cancelled at the last possible second.

The introduction of Sunny’s sister and Black Lotus didnt really feel that impactful to me.
Sunny seemed kind of directionless for most of S3. What Bajie said to him towards the end “youre a good man who trusts the wrong people and falls into messes” was quite telling.

Misc:

What does M.K. stand for? I don’t think they ever spoke it in the show.

Overall: 8/10

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Moody Kid :wink:

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