I’m guessing it means MB Teleport because normal Teleport is -372 give or take a 100 frames.

And Black Adam’s Foot Dive was already punishable, just annoying to do if he spaced it right. This should make it easier on people and certain characters.

^ i was actually surprised his running man stance didn’t already give him a crouching hitbox. that was obviously a mistake.

it’s one thing for him to say it’s his personal opinion that scorpion is fine and the mortal kombat community is overreacting (because they do. to everything), but his whole conspiracy theory of the motivation that each top player has for wanting scorpion banned is a little much for me. oh yeah, and he mains scorpion.

by the way, are you dev_dude on psn?

Holy fuck D3v you are the most hilarious nimrod with a position of power. The fact that you agree with carl is hilarious, especially with how “scrubby” he is/was especially when it came to MK and that he’s doing exactly what he did in MK9 when Kung Lao first came out with the downplaying. Carl calls the community lazy when everything he’s talked about to use to beat the TP has already been worked on adn dissected and proven to not be that effective, especially in comparison to much the teleport dictates the pace of the match. When you’re actuallyl knowledgeable of the games you talk about instead of just parrotting whatever Top Player of the month you feel like dickriding I’ll listen to you.

The BA nerfs barely affect him, the damage scaling is mainly on MB Lightning Cage which is good, I should be getting 40%+ for an advantage WU with Oki on hit. I do think his damage scaling in general needs to be hit, 48% with oki into double crossup/High/Low is kind of dumb.

Bane and Joker buffs are hilariously pointless, both are still ass. Upgrades to D2s are nice though the two MUs where he really needs good AA are still gonna suck Catwoman and Scorp

Supes nerf hurts derpy play but keeps his strengths intact

Killerfrost, ouch just ouch

Nightwing, fuck him that is all

Define “punishable”. Because if BA did a footdive, and you blocked it, and he backdashed, there was nothing you could do.

Sad to say but it’s true. Bane’s charge can’t be countered with a reversal. WHOOPTY FUCKING DO! It’s still one of the most predictable moves in the game and his only way to get in. NRS needs to make the damn thing cancellable so he can get in.

This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:

And would it kill them to give the game a universal forward roll on knockdown? Come on man. That’s how you know this game was made only for zoners to thrive. How can there be a backward roll on knockdown but NOT a forward one?

If you read the backdash you can punish that as well. It’s still a risk BA has to take that isn’t really in his favor. And if not spaced correctly it is punishable straight up, if only with fast normals.

As for the forward roll…who cares? It’s really funny to see the reactions about Injustice. There are as many people bitching that the game was made for zoning as there are people bitching that the game destroyed zoning.

MB teleport -8? would it even be useful? that’s just begging for a free D1/grab, not that i’m complaining.

someone from tym said his dive kick is -14 when spaced at its worse, but around -9 normally. so add 4 frames to that, and it will truly be around -14 now. eh, we’ll see. i really hope they normalized his 19% MB low lightning.

uppercut priority improvements are welcome, but i hope they didn’t make them too good. in street fighter, there were just some characters that you couldn’t jump on ever.

anyways, really happy with the patch. can’t ask for much more than this.

Couple more changes that should happen to BA is make his lightning projectiles instead of physical, for some reason they’re typed as physical so Bane gets shat on in Lvl 3 Venom. I don’t think the nerfs hurt him too badly.

Speaking of Bane they gotta take that character back to the drawing board, you’d have to do so much stuff to him to make him good it would ruin the game IMO.

Scorpion nerfs make sense, though depening on how much pushback they added he stuck in a disadvantaged position but you may not be able to punish him per se depenign ont he character. Supes is gonna fuck up sloppy Scorps hard.

Also if the D2 buff is significant enough I may go back to maining Ares.

And once again, fuck Nightwing. Check the FinestKO NCI stream to see me choke hard against my boy California Joe, I choked hard in both my stream matches. I had no clue how to fight the Hawkgirl MU with BA, should have stuck to Deathstroke in both matches, when I switched to Slade I was on tilt and did hella dumb shit. Probably gonna change my roster of characters to Ares, GL, Doomsday, BA. Dropping Stroke, he just doesn’t feel rewarding anymore.

Forever Nightwing. :coffee:

Flash buffs…very nice!

Apparently MB Teleport i still a mid O.o

Hence why it’s -8 now.

I bet if NRS made Scorpion’s teleport the same speed as let’s say…Ken’s jab fireball (or slower than that) AND it didn’t push back (including the meter burn version) most people will still make noise saying he’s OP loool

Wait… why the hell DIDN’T Flash’s running man stance already but him in a crouching position?

Sometimes I think they spent a hell of a lot of time on Superman, Batman, and Aquaman and everybody else was just like “Oh… OH yeeeeeeeeeah! That guy’s in the game, too!”

Biggest crime is the Joker. Joker should really be the Magneto of this game. If anybody should be OP it should be him. I don’t see how they dropped the ball on that. I mean at this point you could buff all his moves and he’d still suck in this game. How this didn’t come up in testing is beyond me.

Still I guess I’ll just have to keep using him until I can find something that can be exploited…

I wonder if Harley’s trait will be viable now. I’m guessing not, but if the recovery is low enough, I could see it.

It’s barely been a month of play. You cannot make meaningful decisions regarding balance of a month of play.

No.

i wonder the same. if she can use her trait after a hard knockdown without giving her opponent a free punish, then it will be viable. i assume that’s the original intention of the trait. the buffs are nice, but the thing you really want is the tnt bomb to go for a reset. then again, wakeup attacks go right through the bomb, so i don’t know. either way, i can’t wait to see how much the recovery has been reduced.

I’m pretty sure ALL Harley Quinn players are happy that NRS is doing something other than nerfing her all the time. As for her trait, I am pretty sure that they will make her recovery fast I mean if they reduced it by say 1-5 frames you know people will be unhappy so they will make it fairly decent enough and not enough to make the trait OP with instant traits but I guess for now only time can tell.

Great… They killed Killer Frost… Fuck this game.

Who’s the Joker player? My chat won’t load.

Killer Frost is still a top 10 character

Harley’s trait is still garbage