You know I love and respect the opinions of everyone here (okay, that’s a blatant lie) but I am actually very surprised about the amount of love Infinite Crisis gets from this forum. Personally, I think the whole Infinite Crisis thing was probably the worst comic book event to happen in like the last five years. All the build-up mini-series were weak and tedious to read. The actual story was completely irrelevant to any comic book reader younger than 35. And the fall-out and sheer editorial destruction it wrecked upon DC’s other titles was the worst thing to have happened to humanity as a race since the Holocaust.
I may be exaggerating a bit, but I think you get my point.
By the way, the original discussion was between House of M and Infinite Crisis, which we went over a bit (though not as focused as here) in the old thread. I think I’ve ranted about this a couple times now, so I think I’ll just copy and paste my stuff from the old thread.
Infinite Crisis sucked Infinite Balls. (hahahaha, oh my God I’m fucking hilarious) Neither one was all that great, but if I had to choose the suckier one, it’d be Crisis.
The fact that Infinite Crisis single-handedly crushed the entire Flash franchise should be enough.
Infinite Crisis definitely had some of the weakest stuff I’ve ever seen. I would have guessed that Chris Claremont wrote it if I didn’t know any better - throughout the entire story, all that happens is the dialogue TELLING you how epic this whole thing was, when there was absolutely no evidence in the story or plot to back it up.
Every scene ends with Random Character A turning to Random Character B (ie. Red Tornado, Blue Beetle III, Batman! Forced to band together because of the EPICNESS!!!) looking up at the sky as some huge EPIC force of evil comes upon them and saying “…this is EPIC.”
Honestly, did ANYONE care about Old Lois Lane dying? Superboy? All the Flashes? The Human Bomb?
How’d you like Superman hitting Superman with that car? AND DID YOU NOTICE THAT IT WAS IN THE SAME POSE AS ACTION COMICS #1!?! That’s subtle shit, I bet I was the only one that caught that reference.
What about Uncle Sam? The guy they apparently SO MANY people care about that they couldn’t even help themselves and had to bring him back immediately? Uncle Sam? Seriously?
How can you take a story seriously when it was all apparently started by Old Superman being so strong and angry that he punched a hole in the…space…time…warp…continium…thing?
Having like three years of hype preceeding it didn’t really help all that much either.
And at the end, Superman turns it up to 11 and punches something really hard.
Absolutely nothing to distinguish Infinite Crisis from a random mid-tier JLA story.
That’s weird, I didn’t think I usually swore that much.
The entirely of Infinite Crisis just felt fake, like everyone involved it was trying too hard to make it all EPIC. They killed Blue Beetle or absolutely no reason other than the standard comic book story cliche where, you kill a guy = EPIC STORY!!!
Just think of all the D-listers they killed in the actual story for no reason. Superboy, Wally West (sucked into the Speed Force, whatever) - did their deaths add anything at all to the story? Could you have imagined Infinite Crisis going the same way without them dying? …yeah.
They threw in a whole bunch of watered down meaningless mini’s as a cash grab to lead up to Infinite Crisis, and you were supposed to have a cool new insight of all the details that they were alledgely planning for a year that came together in Infinite Crisis…only that wasn’t true, at all. They disrupted every other book they published by throwing in completely random Infinite Crisis tie-in’s, even in titles that have nothing to do with Infinite Crisis, and in stories that had nothing to do with Infinite Crisis.
Like in Batgirl, she’s chasing down this baddie in her story about going to search for her mother (a solo story, nothing to do with Infinite Crisis), and suddenly she runs into an OMAC dude, beats him up in two pages, and continues chasing the baddie like it didn’t even happen.
What does that OMAC dude add to the story? What if you’re just a Batgirl reader and you didn’t feel like picking up Greg Rucka’s ridiculously bad OMAC mini? It makes no sense to you.
And they were doing this in all the books - just randomly putting in random Infinite Crisis tie-ins even at the cost of crappying up stories, just so it seemed like this was a whole EPIC DC universe-wide event.
The actual story was just fake nostaglia, and it made absolutely no sense to you if you didn’t read the original Crisis (which is like sixteen thousand pages spread over two hundred titles and happened twenty years ago), and all the ridiculous big EPIC events that happened in Infinite Crisis were meaningless to you because you had absolutely no knowledge or no emotional investment in any of the characters.
Okay, so this Old Lois Lane whose existence you just learned about three issues ago has died? Oh…that’s really sad…?
THE FUCK CARES!?!
One Year Later was probably the worst thing to come out of it too. I don’t know how they decided that was a good idea. Instead of nice easy lead-in issues for new readers that may have jumped on with Infinite Crisis, they crazied up everything and alienated ALL readers, new and old alike.
I’m just amazed at how good DC books were going before Infinite Crisis. You look at the books now, and…pretty much outside of Green Lantern, there’s not one single title I would recommend to a new reader. Just a massive comic book disaster in my eyes, and I just can’t see how it was a good thing in any sense, considering the quality of DC’s books now.
Civil War at least had an awesome start for three issues that had everyone in the old thread (including me) saying this was the bombest thing EVAR. It ended weak as hell because Mark Millar is incapable of finishing a single comic book story strongly, but there is no way it was handled as badly as Infinite Crisis was.
House of M…debatable…but like Zephy said - in the end, “No more mutants” was a LOT less worse than anti-continuity punch and etc.
