Rasalas
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Incorrect.
They do have the same startup (3 frames) but Boxer’s has 5 frames of recovery and Dudley’s has 7. Boxer’s has +4 on block and +7 on hit, while Dudley’s has +1 on block and +4 on hit.
That’s the c.lp. Dudley’s s.lp is 1 frame of faster startup that Boxer’s.
I think this matchup is 6-4 on Balrog’s favor. I play it a lot (PR) and Balrog has superior footsie game, very superior.
I think the best position you can be against him is where his low rush punch whiffs and you can counter poke with a prebuffered RH.
Seeing that I main balrog (boxer)…the match up isn’t that hard for dudley to win. I will say this tho when you get rog down c.lk is the best bet cause without meter he has no good wake up but to block. Can you say tick grab if he blocks it lol
Rasalas
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c.lk is very good against rog since he can’t do anything if you do it meaty on wake up. If he throws headbutt you will auto block, the same will happen with the ex dash punch. Then you can punish however you want.
East
44
For the record
Dudley’s Standing Jab: +3 on block +6 on hit
Dudley’s Crouching Jab: +2 on block +5 on hit.
That is why it is actually somewhat difficult to do c.lp, c.lp, c.mp; because c.lp to c.mp is a 1 frame link.
Thanks for the c.lk advice. Now I don’t have to risk my ass option selecting him with f.mk. I’ll just use c.lk. Time to get paid.
sorry if this has been mentioned before but i just realized yesterday.
if you FADC a jet upper you can follow up with TWO c.HK from any part of the screen, balrog will get hit by the 2 sweeps
Mr.X
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I knew you could do it in the corner but anywhere? That is new to me.
cr.LK > cr.LP > st.HK whiffing on his wake up really gets on my tits.
It really really sucks. I guess you should probably do something meaty crouch short > crouch jab > jab mgb if you want something off of meaty crouch short. I just go for scoop from a distance since EX Headbutt will whiff when you do it meaty, but it’s susceptible to EX Punches
Hey, at least, after a forward throw, he wakes up the other side, with his back at you, not pushing you away, so from forward throw you can do your regular mixups/meaties on him.
work him to the corner, and hes done. watch his meter, lookout for ex dash on wakeup, OS meaty f.mk grab on his wakeup, hm yea pick guile?
Rasalas
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It whiffs because he has a glitched wake up, lol. Just like Juri, Adon and Dee Jay. But thanks to that you can set up some nasty ambiguous jumps.
Also, if you do a meaty f.hk you can only do 1 cr.lp and then st.hk, if you do 2 cr.lp for those who have a bit of trouble confirming with just 1 jab the st.hk will whiff.
And the ex upper fadc into 2x cr.hk can be done only to Balrog from anywhere on the screen.
Also the meaty cr.lk I mentioned earlier can be used for an OS I’ve been doing against Balrog:
After knockdown, throw the meaty cr.lk xx cr.mp target combo. The cr.lk has to be from max distance or else you will trade with the dash punch
It beats all the ex dash punches and the reversal headbutt, pretty neat, huh?
i was experimenting today
and to connect the 2x sweep on balrog you must FADC with the EX or MP versions of the jet upper.
fadc with the mp version of the jet upper gives you the most damage of all 4
East
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Whoever said to abuse Blarog with c.lk on his wake-up thank you. I ran through every Balrog I met this Saturday at a tournament.
Rasalas
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Your welcome, try out the OS I posted about 3 posts back for more sexiness. You got the auto block plus an anti-ex punch strategy (Second hit registers as counter hit, which is a lot better).
So meaty Cr. Short always if they have no meter, what is it safe on?
Rasalas
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Its +1 on block and +4 on hit. It can set up for frame trap combos for generating counter hits and for the OS I mentioned. Balrog doesn’t hit you with anything on wake up. If you time it right, nothing balrog throws at you hit you, for example: ex dash punch (any version) headbutt (any version), ultra, super, you obviously beat his throw, if he focus back dashes you can follow him with low ducking or lp mgb, can use for U1 OS. I cant think of anything more balrog does on wake up, lol.
Edit: I just found out that if you hit the second hit of the target combo (from the OS I mentioned) you can link into cr.jab or st.jab, and its hit confirmable.
MeLLoW
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Your biggest goal is to to make a Balrog player leave without dignity from the start to the finish.
humbag
59
following ex mgb with duck straight -> lp mgb does not do more damage than sweep sweep
straight does 100, lp mgb does 90
each sweep is 100
unless I am mistaken and lp mgb does more than 100?
Ill use u2 mainly to get jumps/taps.
EX straight blows through a lot of your offense and balrog jabjabjabjab is kinda annoying similar to bison c.lk’n everything you do
Rasalas
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Just grab that ex dash punch, its pretty easy.
And yes, x2 Sweep after the ex mgb does more damage.