Immensely frustrated against "scrubs"

Crouch fierce all day.

This man knows what he’s talking about. Scrubs jump into it all the time.

What is your definition of a scrub, and do you consider yourself one?

Lol This! I was playing some ken scrub and kept tick throwing him because all he was doing was holding Down+Block the whole time. He had no idea how to deal with it and ended up rage quitting after 3 matches, then he sent me hate-mail calling me a noob/scrub ect lol shit was hilarious.

Agreed, I hate playing scrubs because I have to change my playstyle and just block + punish the whole time, it is boring as hell to me. I like to play people who know the matchup or know how to play because then I can practice my own strategies, techniques and setups.

This. I sometimes get mad at myself because I don’t have the patience for all of that shit :lol: Patience is a key factor here imo.

Probably because you don’t take them seriously … Thus you basicly charge them and attempt to do very unsafe move on them …
Has the match progress you become more and more irritated…Your link , bnb and combo don’t work and each time you miss … you end up eating a flaming shoryuken.Than you become frustrated and why can’t i beat someone who can’t even do a single BNB?
You need to build up confidence and momentum.

Don’t try to be too much fancy .

Always expect the unexpected vs a scrubs/newbies.Hell always expect the unexpected vs any player.

Also one of your problem might be footsies…Someone with very good footsies can shut down scrubs without pulling a single BnB.

Must-read article…

This maybe redundant, …but I will go ahead and say it anyway. Up until a few weeks ago, I used to complain about “scrubs” too. Oh, you cheated! WTF??? All you do is Fierce DP over and over again. You suck, you fucking scrub. That is, until I read this article and realized I was the scrub. Seriously, the article opened my eyes.

Sure I practiced my combos, I tried to win by “skill” and not using “cheap” moves over and over again. Thing is, these “scrubs” I was playing against were onto something that had eluded me for the longest time. Win, whatever the cost. No matter what. They find moves and tactics that work, glitches in the game, study frame data, etc. and then they go out and do whatever they must do to win.

That being said, I have found that patience really pays off against players who seem to mash DP’s and play randomly. Play a defensive first round. Study your opponent and try to find patterns in their attacks. If you know they like to fierce DP on wake up, block that and punish them on their way down. Patience is a virtue. Find an opening and exploit it.

“This is the most entertaining complaint of the bunch. When this player loses to someone he considers a weaker player, the I lost to a scrub! line is sometimes used as an excuse. This player is saying that he is very good at the game, and losing to such a poor player doesnt prove anything. He often enumerates all the weaknesses of this poor player, including such gems as he relies on only one tactic and his mind games are weak. The more he puts down the other player, though, the worse he looks himself. If the other player relies on only one tactic, and you cant beat it, then what does that say about you?”

-Sirlin

^Sirlin has converted yet another, good that you understand this though. If you are losing against a so called or possibly what is a scrub tactic, then it is time for a little bit of self examination.

Just block like some dude already said. Random will be random. You can use the time when playing against scrubs to better your reaction time. Whether you win or lose, it is of no consequence. I could care less if I get randomed hit out of every thing. But, playing against all that randomness can help with your reaction time. Get a sense of what that particular scrub likes to do - as in which special is this noob going to abuse. I play balrog so against fireball spammers without any zoning tactics, I just sit back and work on my fireball defense and work on my ways to get in. If they are a srk spammer, I try to punish the light ones as hard as I can as I tend to have a hard time reacting quick enough to punish light srks with anything more then a sweep. So, basically, use that time to better you skills. Win or lose, who cares.

I’ll give you guys some more examples of the things that get on my nerves;

I’ve played against Kens who use fierce shoryuken randomly, and when I dash in to throw them or focus them, I’m hit with ultra. This is just bad timing on my part, right?

With Sakura, I have a lot of trouble punishing stuff Ken does overall; for instance, I have no idea what to use against it, because of the way he’s pushed back when it’s done.

Also like deviljin said: block everything. And as a Sakura player you have to punish hard… like 1 mistake and your dead hard. Learn her resets and as soon as you see an opening pick c.mk or hp/c.hp and go right into that ex tatsu (or do her strongest bnb: s.hp>l.tatsu>c.hp>ex.tastu and make your reset… if he’s a scrub he won’t guess right :wink:

Playing online games with 1 or 2 frames of input lag will cause you mistime things like this.

keep your ground, punish easy mistakes, and occasionally you shouldn’t input the button of your tough link, you should wait or backdash instead. They WILL jump in on you so watch your pokes too, they might be fishing for it. Don’t play close and if you are unconfident in having read your opponent, don’t go for a mix up either because you don’t want the percentages to play for you.

there’s a lot of good advice in this thread so I don’t have much to say, just that you aren’t crazy. You do have to treat scrubs very differently from players that know what they are doing, and it can throw you off some times. It’s like learning a new matchup almost, albeit a very favorable one.

Tonight I was playing online vs a regular local opponent. So I’m playing my normal game and all of a sudden he starts playing slightly differently and a bit more recklessly, so I think “hmmm… mindgames huh? I’m not gonna get beaten by this shit”. Goes down to the last round, and lose to some really stupid shit, and I’m think “damn… those mindgames really screwed me over”. Then I get a message “That was my 14 year old cousin playing lol”. Had to laugh at that. Just goes to show though, you can’t play against new players in the same way you play against more experienced players. The only mindgames involved are yours against your own character lol.