Might work once vs someone without a DP – def going to try it later tonight and see.
loving Oni, sort of a real big bummer you can’t FADC out of a blocked SRK.
It’s not a mixup if it does the same thing every time. It would be cool if the tatsu could combo from palm jetpack, but if it doesn’t, this is pretty useless. More of a gimmick than a mixup.
Edit: obv, or if you could get the tatsu to hit from the front too.
i dont think people said he’s so shitty, its just that compared to other characters with srk, not being able to fadc a srk on block is a pretty huge drawback. plus he’s new, so people some were just people early opinions on him.
What are you guys using for kara throw? im using f+mk.
im using F+HP
nice to see the oni forums starting to blow up. unfortunately i won’t be able to get ae until July when it comes out on pc
So far, I am really liking oni. I just can’t seem to figure out what type of character he is. Is he a zoner or what? I feel like his whole game is based off of baiting and punishing.
is hcf+lk safe on block?
EDIT: nvm just tested and it isn’t.
How would you categorize oni? Zoning, Rushdown, Counter, and/or Mix up?
I’d say he’s more of the rushdown/mix up type.
you tested against what? srk? you should test against multiple moves to check the frames.
You sure? My test shows that it’s only weakness is reversal supers.
youre saying reversal supers as if everyone’s supers has the same startup/properties, heh
yeah i did some retesting with about half the cast and it is safe, besides like you said fast reversal supers.
Awww … that is a bummer. I dig his look, and a few other folks in other forums said they think he is zoning, so I was hoping I finally found myself a boy for street fighter =’( … well here is to hoping I can adapt him into a zoner.
dont just test blindly…
test it against reversal shoryu to see if its safe against 3 frames moves… against flash kicks for 4, tiger uppercut for 5 etc
chun li’s super has 0+1 frame startup so im sure its not safe against that.
Yeah its safe against all shoryu’s. and ive punished it with a wide variety of supers so far im still testing(ken, ryu, cammy, chun, dudley, balrog, sakura, fei) so far only person super i couldn’t punish it with is rose.
That’s exactly what i did, I set the dummy to do Oni’s lk slash thing and instantly hold back so he would block a reversal DP. I would say it’s negative about 1 or 2 frames since i also set the dummy to jump right after the slash against gief, and it loses to reversal SPD.
I honestly can’t see Oni being a rush down/mix up character since all of his shit is unsafe. As for a zoner,I feel a bit iffy about his zoning game since his regular fireball is pretty crappy imo. It’s too early to judge though. I still need to mess around with him a bit to fully understand him