Reduce active frames on palm from 15 to 10 and raise recovery from 5 to 10… that’s being nice… this movie is fucking retarded… Reduce meter gain… for 1 bar it’ll be increased from 9 whiffs to about 12. Make only ex palm have juggle properties… unless in genei jin or if it breaks armor aka counter hit. Palm should be -3 at the very least… A move like that that builds good meter, is safe offense pressure on opponents wake up and breaks armor… +1, that’s tooo derpy
Ex up kicks only have a follow up with another ex up kicks…
Ex lunge punch is now -2 on block… no character should have derpy move like that… Get in free… air born so if he’s hit he gets reset… if the focus it armor breaks… if it makes contact follow up with anothe rlunge or ultra… if blocked, frame advantage so free pressure against characters with no invincibility… “ex lunge punch is ok”… get out of here… silly dumbass.
As it is right now… yun’s overhead does 65 damage… when in genei jin it gets increased to 85… I say make his overhead do 65 whether in genei jin or not… this will bring the damage down from anywhere between 50-100 damage… He still have his bullshit corner 50/50 shit so… pfff
I believe after the second hit of the target combo yun is -3… increase that to -4, Reduce the knock back yun creates for himself after a blocked lp shoulder slam.
Give yun the same height restriction on dive kicks as yang.
Make ex shoulder slam the only possible follow up after ultra, unless in genei jin.
instead of nerfing yun, they should buff the rest of the cast IMO
That’s going to be a shit load of buffing.
psh… you want every character to be super derpy… play marvel… i hear almost every character can kill almost any other character with one combo…
no, i want people to stop bitching about Yun
well, when almost EVERYBODY is complaining about a character, that’s gotta be a red flag that something’s up… I think it’s more disturbing that there are some ass clowns out there that try and defend it…
It’s funny to hear that one guy say… “I wish you guys would play yun at the arcade, then you’d see just how easy it is to stop him”…
You would think that for one second… if someone were to take a character everyone deems as god like… and lose with it consistantly… Instead of using that as evidence for the contrary, use it as evidence for one’s own scrubby ness…
Long story short… you go to arcade, lose with yun… That doesn’t mean yun isn’t as good as everyone says, it means that that person is ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Patch notes
-Every character that did not have srk now has a srk
-Every character that did not have a command grab now has a command grab
-Everyone has now has a divekick
-All moves are safe on block just like Yun
There, now everybody is on equal footing. Sounds like someone doesnt want his character to be nerfed -_-
more like he wants characters to be good instead of boring and shitty which is like 80% of the fucking roster in this game. i don’t like mvc3 that much but at least half the roster aren’t boring and shitty like super nerf fighter 4.
I agree with you, I’m really glad that they put in at least some characters who have many options, are fun to use and are overall really good.
I main Yun because I liked him in 3rd Strike (even though I liked Makoto more than him in that game), I loved his playstyle and I love rushdown characters, one of the reasons why I dropped my Vanilla main (Rose) and played Cammy as a main and Ibuki as a alt.
I still play Ibuki, not because shes insanely good (which she isn’t), but because of her mixup potential and the overall playstyle. I’d rather kill myself before I play one of the other boring characters in SF4. (Mainly chargers, not trying to offend anyone, but for me they are just boring to play as)
There isn’t really much to say, it is how it is.
It’s not the twins fault that Ryu is Ryu and Gief will always be Gief.
People just want their characters to be really good, instead of playing them because they are fun to use.
I know a beast Gen and he’s playing him since Vanilla, he loves the playstyle of the character and that’s the reason why he sticks to him, regardless of the nerfs he went through.
Honestly I wish the patch would be released soon, like in a month or so. Even if the S tiers get raped, at least we can deal with it right now, instead of waiting 6 month for it to happen.
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Yun Dive kick have way less block stun and hit stun than Yang. That is the reason Yang dive kick has higher height restriction because his ground game with rekkas, poke and Roll kick is better than Yun.
Yun need to dive kick constant to get in, Yang do not. Thats why Yun Dive kick is fast, can be done lower but lower frame advantage
I’m gonna do other people a favour hoping they read my post before yours:
This guy wants Yun to be shit. No need for you guys to go through that wall of text.
this is all i needed to know you absolutely have no idea on wtf you’re talking about. do you even know why yun have less retriction than yang? of course not, because you’re just salty that your character ( 9 times out of 10 ) is shitty. just please stfu.
Translation: “My character is the best, your character sucks. Let’s go play Yang Fighter 4. Yay!!!”
ya… yun needs two special moves that are +1 on block… otherwise he’d be shit
He needs to be able to mach an ex dp and be able to follow up for more damage with no extra meter charge… otherwise he’d be shit
He needs to be able to follow up with ultra with a normal special move with no extra meter cost… otherweise he’d be shit.
Yun needs an increase in damage to overhead while in geneijin otherwise he’d be shit.
Fuckin ass clowns… All of you.
Why is an abel player saying shit about retarded damage output?
The obvious choice is to buff the other characters. Let’s be honest Yun would not be the best character in Vanilla SF4, he just happens to be a good character plopped down in the middle of a sea of nerfed characters.
However since Capcom is too lazy to figure out how to buff everybody else I think all we need to do is make some of the stuf he has that is + on block now - on block. I’m not talking about huge -, but say for example his ex lunge punch is currently +1, change that to -2. This small change prevents Yun from taking control after a blocked lunge and forces him to risk something if he wants control post lunge. Also give his upkicks a bit more recovery frames. More in line with what they did to Cammy.
Really all they need to do is add a bit of risk to his stuff.
ESCOBEN
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the rebalance? its gonna be a full on neutering like they did with Sagat in super, if not worse.
geez I never seen so much stupidity in one thread in a minute.
The main thing I see with yun is his ability to rush down relentlessly and build meter consistently.
If they cut that down a lil mans would be fine
