hey man, how’s it goin?
yah that’s why it’s called meaty. From wut i know of “Meaty definition” , the Kunai will never hit as a cross-over in any of Ibuki’s vortex!! the Kunai will force the opponent to Block giving u a full safty to land on the other side as well as link wutever u want right after (wither if the Kunai did hit or not)…so there are not a single vortex Ibuki can do where there’s a Kunai that will hit opponent the other side (or force him to block the Kunai the opposite direction)
All Kunai’s are blocked on the same side, wither crouching or standing they are all blocked. so technically speaking tis not a cross over, it’s something which will force opponent to block(or maybe get hit) and giving u 100% advantage to be safe…perfect Okizeme, Basic ABC ibuki ya know
to make sure, put the dummy on Auto block and test it urself.
PS: if the Kunai hit cross over then u wont be able to make it a Vortex like the situation u Mentioned After neckbreaker, do a superjump and throw the kunai very late, and the kunai will hit them from behind instead of from the front
I don’t think xxteefxx knows wtf he’s talking about.
I am 100% sure you can make it so the opponent has to block the kunai the other way, if Ibuki is already on the other side when they wake up. It wouldn’t be much of a crossup or vortex if the opponent didn’t have to think about which way to block.
aghh… alright knowledgeable guy, how come? and seriously i want u to prove it to me by showing me a vid, otherwise dont just come to shut it in my face while cursing without sayin anything as a prove.
u wanna tell me u can vortex with ur Kunai hittin opponent the reverse the direction? u land and opponent will still block the reverse direction?
here’s wut i mean:
-(1) Ibuki VS (2)Viper. Ibuki on the left, Viper on the right
Ibuki (on the left), did Neck breaker on Viper. Ibuki Jumps in the air preforms a Kunai and tryin to follow up after with series of strings.
Viper(on the right side), on the ground after the neck breaker. Viper tryin to get up to block the Kuani. how will she block it? the same side, by pressing (right direction on stick or pad).
after Ibuki’s done with the Kunai and landed on the other side safely to preform wutever string:
viper , will be on the other side. how to block it? Opposite direction. (left direction on the pad or stick)
now if ur sayin that ur kunai will Hit opponent forcing him/her to block the Kunai the Opposite direction ! then simply u cannot follow up with a vortex (not okizeme and u will be punished if u tried to do any strings)…hence it’s not a vortex.
** the kunai has a range to hit opponent , the hitbox of the maximum distance of the kunai to hit opponent is when Ibuki exactly above the opponent (not on the other side of him!)…further than that, then Ibuki’s Kunai wont be able to hit opponent if ur tryin to do a vortex after knocking down opponent (not even LP kunai)
I suggest you do more testing xxteefxx. It’s obvious you’re missing out on Ibuki’s most powerful tool. And pls no more wall of texts, try to keep it plain and simple.
hey dude. nah am sorry i know wut am saying and i will prove it in 2 hours when i return back cause am gonna record it. if u think wut i said is wrong (when it comes to the sense of blocking) then tis either u didnt understand me, or didnt understood wut was Dueslucas question was, OR it’s Obvious u dont understand the most Powerful tool like wut u said when it comes on blocking them.
If any of u have a prove that wut i said is wrong, bring it in a vid (nothing else). if u cant then am sorry, wut am sayin is 100% correct. u didnt understand wut am tryin to say then that is something else!! i can do my best to rephrase again that’s for sure! but dont say i need to learn or that am wrong in wut am saying
PS: i believe u didnt read wut i posted hence u said wall of txt…am i correct?
EDit: the question was HOW WILL U BLOCK IT? correct ? by dues lucas** just bringing that up cause i dont want people AGAIN gettin off the subject just because they wanted to reply on my post and act that they know!!
how to block it…again. i will be back in 2 hours
Wow, you really don’t know what you are talking about. Please stop spreading false information. Ibuki can cross up with her kunai and she can combo afterward. It’s really sad you don’t know this.
Also, work on your english, your posts give me a headache.
For the sake of everyone trying to learn a crossup and non-crossup kunai vortex, here’s something that can help you get the idea of how to do it (copy pasted from one of my posts in this thread). It’s much easier learning it from an HK Tsumuji sweep, and once you get it done you’ll know how to pull it off from a NB, FThrow etc.
Meaty Kunai Vortex w/ HK Tsumuji sweep:
Non-crossup Kunai: Normal jump immediately, throw kunai before peak of jump, with choice of landing on same/other side.
*It’s also possible to perform a non-crossup kunai with a super jump but you’ll have to throw your Kunai earlier and time your super jump a few millisecs later.
Crossup Kunai: Super jump immediately, throw kunai before peak of jump.
hey man. just let me make sure of the term cross up cause now i discovered SOMEHOW wuts the issue which is flamming this topic right now. First off am recording the vid, and i stand by wut am saying and that wut i said is correct when it comes to the sense of Blocking.
cross over is, for example sweep somebody and then jump in the air . the kick u will do in the air will make the opponent COMPLETLY be forced to block the other direction!! hence when u land and do a follow up Opponent will still block the SAME direction exactly the same way he blocked the kick in the air.
aint am right? this is the general cross up meaning for LITERLLY every game…guilty gear, mvc, cvsnk…etc.
now my question to u. u did a Kunai after a neck breaker and u gonna land on the other side, how will u block the Kunai and Ibuki’s follow up links?
Quote Tanner: go suck it. also, atleast it’s better than knowing one language…i bit it’s the only language u even speak.
Just stop. You can cause the kunai to hit on either side. Please, just work on your communication skills and spend more time in training mode so you have some idea how to play ibuki.
^^ alright just be patient and i will be back in 2 hours and i will prove it on a vid. as well as i asked everyone if wut ur sayin is correct that u will be forced to block the Kunai the other way around, then show me a vid of that please*
and no am not gonna stop, either explain with logic sense and proves or just dont…wut are the boards for?
and taking control of ur kunai it’s either Forward Kunai or backward one which will land u on the other side…no other options :S…so how does that make me wrong?
again here’s wut i said and here’s wut Dueslucas said…he even approved it when he tried like jesus :S
sweep, jump with a kunai and land on the other side (to block the kunai, u will block the SAME EXACT DIRECTION UR IN!!), when ibuki lands and continue with a follow up Opponent will BE FORCED to block the other way around…
now how is that a cross over? if my term of Cross over is wrong then i guess u guys are right that this is CONSIDERED a cross over…if not! then wut i said in the sense of blocking the vortex is 100% correct!
dont enter the conversation in the middle!! read the previous posts AND THEN judge or enter the convo…dont just come outta nowhere cause u read something were u dont like :S
You can crossup with kunai. I’ve done it and had to block it. I’m pretty sure all you need to do is have ibuki on the other side of the opponent before the kunai hits so throw it a little higher
OMG this is pathetic. You can make the kunai hit cross up or regular depending on your timing. This is common Ibuki knowledge. You’re wasting your time making a video because it’s clear you don’t know how to make the kunai hit cross up.
The part you’re not understanding, I think, is that it doesn’t matter which side the kunai hits on. It matters which side Ibuki is on. If the Kunai is going to hit in front, but Ibuki has already crossed over you, it will hit as a crossup. You block away from Ibuki, always.
Hey dankk. this is exactly wut i am saying >_>…there fore, if Ibuki gonna land on the other side Opponent will have to block the same SIDE where IBUKI was before she jumps to the other side. Hence, the time were u can block the other side(opposite direction) is after the KUNAI’s (blockin the follow up).
now people are dis agreeing with me that it’s a cross up…cross up means u will block the Kunai the other direction and then Block her follow up The same exact direction u blocked the Kunai…which is impossible if ur tryin to do something like that (if ibuki gonna do a Kunai at one side and jump to the other for landing).
UNLESS cross over cross up in this game is completely different from EVERY other game…which i doubt. if it’s something different , then i apologize i guess i was wrong and that am a nub in this particular issue.
Quote from Klazzix, to make myself sure that am on the right TRACK…cause seriously am fed up talkin to kids who just want to enter in the middle of the convo just to throw a word were they didnt even Read the previous posts!! they just enter cause they wanna say something, followed by CURSING and swearing…sadly i have to accept the fact that there will always be these kind of people on every board.
-U can land a kunai forcing opponent to block reverse his direction, and when Ibuki land the other side opponent will still block the SAME direction of the blocked Kunai.
Now that’s Impossible, game system is not capable of something like that due to the Kunai hitbox/ opponent hit box and kunai range range. HENCE my theory when i say it’s not a cross up/over, then i was Correct.
If any of u have just A SINGLE VID!!! just 1 single vid that can prove wut ur saying…throw it out in here! or else dont just reply when u dont know wuts goin on!
my talk was behind the LOGIC of how to block it! non other, if u think it’s bout something else then just dont reply blindly…if u have a vid prove, then send it …and if not then just dont come in and brag that am wrong.
am gonna make the vid right now and post it, otherwise am not gonna reply to any off topic or because people didnt understand me!! (tech speaking, go fuck urself )
Cross up/over Example:
-Char 1(left) VS Char 2 (right)
Char 1 sweep opponent. (char 2 is on the ground now). Char 1 will jump over Char 2 and time a kick. this kick, to be blocked char 2 will have to block the jump deep kick the opposite direction (by holding left). that’s why it’s called cross over
Kunai Vortex effect doesnt do this!!! u can never block the Kunai by holding the reverse direction if Ibuki gonna land on the other side… if there’s then please show me such a technique cause i might not know it.
This is what we’ve been trying to tell you for 2 fucking pages. You CAN cause the kunai to cross up (block left in your example) and combo from it. It’s not hard. Land neck breaker, super jump and throw a lp kunai. And fuck all your bullshit “logic” and theory, it has been a known FACT that Ibuki could do this for MONTHES now.
