Daigo vs Fenrir on his stream. Fenrir is probably more known as FenTamu though for those who watch SF4 videos on Youtube. He’s a top online Yun who plays extremely risky(even more so than Kazunoko IMO).
And I guess this is a foreigner in Japan who recorded a couple of his matches against Daigo.
An interesting take from this is that instead of going for the long axe kick loops made famous by Sako, Daigo is instead going for max stun combos by FADC’ing after the first axe kick which is actually the LK version instead of the MK version(not every time, but often). For example, in his match against Vega he punished with cl. HP, LK axe kick, FADC and repeated that 3 times with a couple of cr. LP in between and then went for a overhead that stunned Vega. The combo by itself does 865 stun, so even a kara throw would have dizzied 1000 stun characters like Ryu or Fei Long. The other combo that repeats cl. HP, MK axe kick. cr. LP, far MP, LK axe kick 2 times with the last one ending in a DP instead would have done 775 stun so you would need one more successful mix up or frame trap to get a stun on most characters.
This is something that I’ve thought about for a long time now. But I lack the confidence in my execution to go for it. The long combos ensure that even if you drop it(lets say the link after the FADC), you still got a decent amount of damage out if it. With the other one if you drop it after the FADC you only did 200, 120 less than the other combo when dropping it at the same point. And that’s the main reason why I only blow meter after a longer combo, gotta make sure I get some good damage first.
Leady
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Seemed like he wasn’t aware of the match-up and missed some opportunities but w/e. Just pointing out a few combo variants:
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strange [but effective] tatsu FADC combo by Sako @01:51
About those, the first one is the most typical FADC combo you’ll see most Evil Ryu player use unless they have select plink. Those guys will probably use cr. jab into cl. HP instead after FADC. The 2nd one I think Lil Evil messed up and a jab came out or he just wanted to do something easy to finish off the Balrog player. The last one had the same FADC link as the first one. Only reason he didn’t include a LK tatsu was because he hit the Rog player crouching so he went immediately to DP after MK axe kick.
The one with Sako was a reaction to Chun’s focus attack. He did cr. MK > HK tatsu to blow that up and I guess you can consider the FADC a OS. If he’s close enough to hit the knee, he burns the meter and can extend the combo. If he’s not then no meter is burned. As for Daigo, he’s not unfamiliar with the match up, he’s doing those combos for one reason and that’s max stun. I’m not sure which combos does more damage, but the ones he’s doing are definitely max stun combos.
Bonchan vs Daigo’s Evil Ryu
Daigo won the set pretty convincingly. I personally have a lot of trouble in this match up against better Sagat players when I try to approach them. Which is why my main strategy is to try and get the lead so I can lame him out. But my problem is that they effectively use well spaced tiger knees which are safe(or I just don’t know if they aren’t) to catch me off guard walking forward, break focus, and put me in block strings even if I do block it. And because I’m so worried about looking for the tiger knee I fail to anti-air when they jump because it’s simply too difficult for me to focus on both. Daigo had no problem doing that, but he’s Daigo. How do you guys fare when you face decent/good Sagat’s?
Here’s a playlist of my matches…
tell me what you think?
Dannkk
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Ran into Arturo Sanchez in ranked, so I decided to finally try the youtube upload. Probably upload some more at some point.
Dannkk
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Damn. Thanks for the heads up. Didn’t realize it automatically got set to private when you uploaded. It should be public now.
Second round could’t have gone any better!
This is me playing disrespectfully.
Yea, Its my fault for random ultra.
Some dude has been uploading Topanga A League matches. The one I was most excited to see was Daigo vs Momochi in the FT7 and it finally got posted a day ago. There are a bunch of other matches from that guys channel including many of Daigo’s other matches from Topanga. But like I said, this was the one I was most looking forward to.
Everyone is calling this the greatest match in SF4 history. How does Daigo do regular fireball fadc into ultra 2? I’ve been doing it with ex fireball all this time I didn’t even know you could do it from normal fireball but when I tried it in traning mode it never combo’d. Also why doesn’t Daigo use standing mk more? I use that move constantly its sooo good.
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Everyone is calling this the greatest match in SF4 history. How does Daigo do regular fireball fadc into ultra 2? I’ve been doing it with ex fireball all this time I didn’t even know you could do it from normal fireball but when I tried it in traning mode it never combo’d. Also why doesn’t Daigo use standing mk more? I use that move constantly its sooo good.
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st.MK is focus bait. That’s probably why.
Looking for some critique on my neutral game and pretty much everything, but specifically my neutral. I feel like it’s my weakest area and I don’t have full control over my spacing.
Starts with an Evil Ryu Mirror. Small set vs A Rank Gouken at 23 minutes. Set vs Gen at 39 minutes. Set vs a Guile/Blanka/Bison (started getting kinda sloppy here, and got a few wake up ultras as opposed to teleports). There’s some good matches in between those, but most of them are one and done wins due to so-so connections (like vs the 4.6kpp Fei).
Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
(Embedding kinda weird, but it’s titled: Endless (Evil Ryu))
Streaming now if anyone wants to watch. twitch.tv/dragonmetsu
Took a really bad beating from RoyalPhlush (who apparently mains Evil Ryu, so maybe he’s here). I’m looking for some advice on my ER and my play in general.
This was a rough set, and I’ve come to realize that I actually have some issues with Ryu in terms of getting into cr. MK range. Maybe it’s the fireball buff? Because of that, I find myself at an uncomfortable spot on the screen and I don’t know what to do. It causes me to give up (a lot of) space with back dashes or bad teleports. Or, even worse, I decide to jump forward and eat an SRK).
Anyway, I felt like I did very well at times and abysmal at others. I threw some really questionable fireballs (and ate jump ins, which looking now, I could see him stutter forward before jumping before I even threw the FB), and because I was losing the FB war, I think I went a little EX FB happy in hopes to get something going.
Oh, and I definitely should have baited more DPs and done less myself.
You definitely seem spot on with your own evaluation of yourself (too many EX FBs, late jump ins, etc). Just a lot of small things, really. Hop kick reaction tatsu and st.MK are good tools against Ryu’s cr.MK. Don’t forget that this a shoto matchup, so whiffing st.LK to make Ryu’s low attacks whiff works great. Also, Evil Ryu’s cr.MK to Fireball is punishable on block when Ryu is in the corner, so watch out for that.
