Do you have any evidence to back that statement up? From what I’ve seen there hasn’t been any Paewang board revisions since they first came out, and the problem you mentioned above is much more common than “very rare”. The fact you can’t update the firmware also goes against them, and they don’t have auto-detect…
remember that part where we were thinking “let’s save that argument for a rainy day”
how about we actually do that
are news for HORI RAP VX-SA “KAI”?
Say what?
Another big site update today. Big thanks to w00fles for lending me a bunch of sticks to test, and to Akishop Customs for supplying me with an updated build of the PS360+ to test on XBox 360. I also bought a Cerberus from Phreakazoid @ Evo, which performed extremely well in testing.
07/25/2014 Site updates:
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Updated overview page to improve wording of Preface and other sections (also replaced “lagless” with ‘low lag’)
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Updated results and raw data to include the following new sticks:
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Added data for Phreakmods Cerberus (PS3)
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Added data for Sega Virtua Stick High Grade (PS3)
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Added data for Qanba Q1 (PS3)
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Added data for Mad Catz TE Round 1(PS3)
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Added data for Akishop Customs PS360+ New build (XBox 360)
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Added data for Mad Catz TE Round 2 (XBox 360)
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Added data for Mad Catz TE-S Chun Li (XBox 360)
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Added data for Mad Catz FightStick V.S. (XBox 360)
Updated charts:
Some interesting notes:
- The new PS360+ does much better on 360, as the input delay is now more in line with other sticks, and the input splitting issue appears to have been fixed up.
- Phreak’s Cerberus (PS3) actually tied the PS3 control stick (Q4RAF original) at 9 wins / 9 losses, out of 1,000 trials, putting it at +0.00 ms.
- The Sega Virtua Stick High Grade (PS3) performs exceptionally well at +7.8 ms despite having a polling rate of 10 ms (per the USBView program). All other sticks with a polling rate of 10 ms scored +10.3 ms and higher, but somehow the VSHG managed to perform a couple of ms better.
Also this is the last update for awhile. I’m heading off to Europe tomorrow for a month for vacation, so I won’t be around to answer questions in the meantime. Hopefully most issues have been cleared up. 
I am completely unaware that there was a new build of the PS360+…
There was a new firmware posted up last week or so, the one that gives PS4 compatibility for 8 minutes at a time.
Oh, this new build of the PS360+ isn’t a firmware update. It’s a new hardware configuration. Not sure on when it will be released / sold to the public.
I’m sure all the attention this thread got played large role in motivating akishop to get on this problem with a renewed sense of urgency.
Despite the over reactions of some, I’m glad this thread will likely ensure that latency is taken into greater consideration in new boards.
Well I got my Paewang in the mail today. My original plan was to wait until the end of the month to see if Akishop would have a firmware update out that would fix the xbox 360 issues. I’ll have my paewang installed probably a solid few months before I could have even gotten the new ps360+ that isn’t even as good for the console(s) I care about. I’m glad as hell that I said screw it a week or so ago and just ordered the paewang.
Also, do you know if Akishop is planning on updating the new build anymore? Or is that their final product to go to production? Maybe they wanted you to test it so they could see how much it lagged so they could continue working on it?
Changes look great, @Teyah. Thanks for not only having thick skin but actually listening to your critics. Your willingness to listen and make reasonable changes tells me that you truly want to present a credible study and not just generate hype/drama.
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I highly doubt it. Pretty sure it was a different thread.
Well I’ll say one thing. I just got the paewang installed in my stick by Kakita Jamie and it is much, much, much better on xbox 360. Its like I went from walking to flying. Seriously
Everything just feels more fluid. Combos are easier. Everything is easier.
If you’re not on your way to becoming a top player in 3 weeks, Per will find you and delay all your inputs.
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Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Cagan’s life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted.
Hey man, I just love kittens. Is that so bad?
I know this isn’t scientific but when I have the madcatz joystick (TE-S) and my paewang next to eachother and I hit the LP with two characters next to each other the paewang gets the counter hit pretty much every time. I even switched hands for the button. Its a lot faster. Also - its super easy to switch between consoles. It doesn’t auto detect between 360 and ps3 but who cares? My recommendation - if you use xbox 360 primarily then use the paewang. If you use PS3 and never xbox then don’t bother with it and do the ps360+. If you use both, go with the paewang. When I compare the paewang to the xbox 360 controller there is no difference (if anything paewang is faster). When I compare it to the ps3 controller it seems the ps3 controller is a little quicker. If I never turned on the ps3 controller I would have never noticed anything. I also remember doing these tests with the ps360+. PS360+ vs xbox controller the xbox controller was substantially faster. I didn’t really believe the numbers in this test until I tried that. I noticed that the ps360+ felt a little ‘off’ but I couldn’t put my finger on it until I compared it to my madcatz fightpad and 360 controller. Now, when I compared the ps360+ to a ps3 controller, they were the same. It works great on ps3.
I think modders should start carrying the paewang instead of the ps360+. Granted, if akishop releases a new ps360+ that fixes some of these issues (especially the double input issue on xbox 360) then I’m sure everyone will carry that. The ps360+ really is so easy to install. No soldering is nice to have, but soldering to the paewang seemed easy enough (I was watching).
Also, for anyone looking to use the paewang: The diagram on the website is backwards for the start / select/ home / turbo buttons. The ground is on the left, not the right. (I think - @Kakitajamie was saying it was backwards last night). He’s an electrical engineer and I guess since the diagram is ambiguous he decided to check with a multimeter.
Just my two cents - for whatever its worth (not much).
Sorry, I couldn’t resist the Fight Club quote, it just sounded so much like it.
I know. I was just messing with you. The important question really is… do you love kittens?
This must be why Infilitration was so strong after he got his prototype Omni from Laugh.
The Darksakul disagrees are hilarious. omg someone is buying a faster board for their stick. The inhumanity, right?