F1
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That’s exactly why I asked. 
I play both, just so you know.
<3F1
Stick is definitely better.
I migrated from pad to stick. I thought pad was easier to use and “better”, but I was wrong. Stick is 100% better than pad. Pad is actually slower to do inputs, fatigues your thumb/hand, and is hard to press multiple buttons. Your thumb will thank you for using a stick, it’s THAT bad on a pad.
If you want to end up with carpel tunnel syndrome and callouses on your thumb, use pad. If you’re playing EVO on a pad and callouse your thumb in the middle of a match… tough luck.
If you want to be Daigo (!), use stick! You will be able to do combos easily withou fumbling for shoulder buttons and other stuff.
Tekken is almost impossible to play decently on a pad. That’s a true “stick” game.
Obviously, I’m exaggerating, but you get my drift. My brother was laughing at me for using the “clumsy stick” as he called it, but I soon wiped that smirk off his face after completely dominating him in SFII and SFIV. Now, he’s begging me to buy him an arcade stick for a present or something.
lain
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casual friends think you’re a wet blanket… happens to all of us
Ever think that your bro and your friends might be casual gamers at heart? From your story it sounds like your both worlds apart when it comes to your dedication to the game.
Like I said, the OP needs to find people who are like minded and game with them cuz you’re not gonna get better playing those fools.
OMG just be glad you have the OPTION to use a stick…if you take a look at all the frustrated people who are trying to get their hands on one you’ll see what I mean. Until those “friends” take the game seriously, like at a competitive level, they won’t really care…thats just how it is.
Why are you trying to force someone to use something they don’t want to?
The reason why you consistently beat them isn’t because you use a stick, it’s because you’re better at the game than they are. They can get better on a pad just the same, there are a lot of good pad players out there. I think you should focus on giving him tips to improve his game and try new tactics instead of focusing so much on the fact that he’s not using the controller you think he should use.
While switching to a stick won’t necessarily make you a better player, at some point the limitations of a gamepad are going to be a huge handicap. Are some people really good with the pad? Yes, but that doesn’t change the fact that as far as Street Fighter goes, the joystick is the better option.
tl:dr, I agree with you, but if you’re serious about this game a stick is a good investment.
all the old school SF players prefer a stick. It took ages for SF to hit super famicom and snes so you were pretty much used to a stick by then. I had sticks for every system i owned except a genesis. I even have a stick for 3do with SSFT2 Turbo. I cant imagine playing with a pad but there are players out there that prefer a pad and can actually kick ass at it. ill always play on a stick only.
This thread is really pointless and should be in tech talk but meh. Sticks are about easier execution. Faster cancels, faster dashing and or parrying. Some players are better on sticks some are better at pads. In the end you will get a high execution level on a stick then a pad. Hence why top players use sticks. Always have always will.
Having friends who don’t appreciate the superiority of a stick is a good thing. At least if there’s only one stick around, which is usually the case. That way, the guy who uses it won’t have to feel bad, and everybody is happy.
I can’t be arsed to type too much but here’s what happened to me just yesterday…
So my old “mate” is having a SFIV tourny on his PS3 at his gaming cafe… Great…That’s in the bag for me for sure…
I ring him up…“Hey man awsome a SFIV tourny… I need to come down and test my stick”
Him… “Oh I’m not allowing sticks as it would be unfair to the other person”
Im like… “LOL that’s crazy… Now it isn’t fair to me, the stick user… Every tourny has sticks you need em” … bah wasting my time with this noob lol… we ain’t so cool any more…
Fuckin scrub…
Tournies should allow for either controller. Well… unless hundreds of people enter, then it would slow everything down.
Thats the 360’s fault. But sticks are wired… is it still as hard to switch from stick to stick as it is 360 controlers?
Yeah, I get what you mean. I have friends who just got into Street Fighter with SF4 and they don’t want to use a stick, yet they complain about having a hard time doing FADC combos and other pretty technical stuff on pads.
I recently won a local tourney and some people said I won just cause I used a stick (I was one of the few). I thought me winning would show everyone that sticks were the way to go, but now most of them are just determined to beat me using a pad.
A stick isn’t something you can go up to someone and go “here this is better”. If you even begin to force a stick on people…they’ll instantly reject unless they were already looking into using one in the first place. They have to realize it for themselves. Some people just can’t justify the money they’ll have to spend to get even a decent one like the Hori EX 2 or the Mad Catz SE. They figure they’re better off saving the money for buying another game than using it just to play one game a little bit better. Which I kind of agree with. There’s no point in buying an HRAP or Mad Catz TE if you’re not even going to use it much or don’t see the value in it.
The best convincing you can do is just to keep beating them with it and not say anything about it. The less you talk to them about the stick…the more they will think about it in the back of their heads. They’ll eventually either realize they just aren’t as good as you are or will realize that a stick may eventually help them to execute and play at a higher level. I know some high level players that are still pad warriors so some people will just be that stubborn and push themselves to work a pad just as well as others do with a stick. You just have to go with the flow and don’t talk…play.
Well yeah… I can do that. But I’d like it if they didn’t scoff every time they have to use the stick and blame their losses on it. We usually have two controllers set up, one stick, one pad. Since we take turns and I’m not always playing, they inevitably have to use the “crappy controller”.
That’s why I wanted to find a way to help them appreciate the stick.
To be honest, I don’t think SF4 requires a stick. The game isn’t THAT technical. FADC and other advanced stuff isn’t hard on a pad, at least not for me.
I can play on pad for hours and I don’t get calluses. I guess after years of playing on pad my thumbs just sort of glide over the pad and they never get sore.
Actually I would say it’s harder to get good on the pad then it is a stick, since you have more control with the stick, but once you master both there isn’t much of a difference.
Games like the Bleach DS series are proof that you can still be super techincal on a pad as long as you are dedicated.
Sounds to me like the problem stems more from the fact that you’re repeatedly beating down your brother, not that his playing on pad is limiting him from improving.
Whenever we get a bunch of people together to play fighters, there are definitely obvious gaps in skill. The best players will hand off their spot after they’ve beaten the entire room, play characters that they don’t main, or will take themselves out of the rotation completely and instead just comment on the matches and give advice. People improve and get encouraged when they play people of a similar skill level or have close matches. Losing repeatedly is understandably pretty discouraging for most.
If you can’t get a regular group of people together and it’s just you and your brother, then focus on giving him advice as you’re playing on how he should be punishing you, how to get out of certain situations, etc. Helping him improve in matchup knowledge and understanding the game’s system is more important than trying to convince him to switch to stick. This is what my brother and I do, since we play each other a lot, and he’s had no trouble with playing pad against me on a joystick in games like SF4, SC4, and GG:AC.
A lot of my friends have become interested in stick because I’ve shown them how easy it is to play a charge character on one or fun things like piano’ing inputs, but the majority stick to pad because that’s what they have available to them to practice on. That’s not to say that they aren’t interested in improving; they’ll soak up advice about how to play their character or ask tons of questions about certain in-game situations that they have trouble with and then start applying this knowledge pretty damn quickly.
So direct your energy at helping your group of players improve in terms of system/match-up knowledge and giving advice, not trying to proselytize them to the “way of the stick.” 
rpgr
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This man speaks the truth. If you’re always going all out against severely worst players then you have to dumb down your game for them otherwise all they are going to do is mash out until something happens.
Break your game down a bit. If they are novices, don’t use mind games or special moves (or only specials as reversals). Don’t go for supers or ultras. As they get better, incorporate more techs and just stay ahead of them. Sooner or later they will get good enough with encouragement that they do go on to a competent level.
When I practiced martial arts in real life, this is what I had to do for newbies. I’d dumb my game down and intentionally fall for things I normally would not have.
What this does is encourage people to continue to get better rather than discouraging people and they quit.
I see things this way, if you encourage people to get better then the quality of games and opponents increase. If you continue to discourage people then you shrink the number of contestants and you end up only with a small select of people with the same styles of play and competition stagnates.
