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you live in cali and you don’t know how to RC? that’s crazy!
I don’t typically see people RC’ing specials with shorts or jabs, since you need those buttons for the roll. If you can do it, then you know something that I don’t.
people do it all the time, all u have to do is double tap the button. It’s not too hard if u practice.
I’m almost strictly K groove, so I never put much effort into perfecting RC. I guess that was the information that I didn’t know. I feel so foolish and worthless now…
whats the best groove to use KIM in??
the best grooves for kim are: C/N/A/P&K/ S
C - is #1 since his lvl 2 supers are too damn good, rc’s and his dash
N - gives him rushdown, small hop, rc’s
A - rc’s, easy customs, he’s a really good battery
Trick
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I think it goes like C/A/N/K/P&S
C gets the slight advantage cuz of his infinite.
A is really good cuz he doesn’t need supers to win.
N is good but i don’t like not being able to tiger knee
Hmmm i can see how A&N can interchange. He is an excellent battery for A-groove but he has all the tools for rushdown in N-groove. 95% of the time i play him in N-groove, since i like to abuse his short hop roundhouse, and running c.shorts are too good.
Trick
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yea that stuff is too good. like i said this is just my preference. no doubt that Kim is good in all grooves though. i need to finish getting those vids from you too cali
Aight i’m gonna post some random shit.
- tiger knee air qcf+k is too good. I made the best comeback of my life with this move. It setups counter hits, does not gives kim frame advantage, gains meter fast.
-after a knock down just walk up and do a c.mkxxxqcb+k, this works a lot more than it should.
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also after a knock down do walk up whiff s.jab, sweep. I stole this one off of arturo
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against sagat, always, and i sat ALWAYS be ready to do your lvl 3 super. set this up by dancing right out side of his s.fierce range.
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abuse s.lk and c.mk against charaters that duck his far s.fierce
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c.lk, close s.fiercexxxd,d+k is good against all character, but should be your main weapon against people who duck his far s.fierce
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Random qcb+mk or lk are good against people who are walking back and forth, even though i said u shouldn’t (refer to the first page). BUT do not do random qcb+HK, unless u have a lvl 3 or lvl 2 or u r in P/k groove.
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Abuse kims roll
I respect that you know a lot of this game and have a lot of wins, but I don’t think this is correct. If it gives a frame advantage, then he couldn’t be thrown when he lands. Zangief can throw him after a blocked qcf+k pretty well. So I can’t say it’s a frame advantage. It’s unnerving though, because it looks like an overhead and you have the voice actor going apeshit over GISHOUKYACKU GISHOUKYAKU GISHOUKYAKU HAKIKYAKU GISHOUKYAKU etc.
Nah u just didn’t read the post correctly. I said if u **TIGER KNEE ** the move, then he gets frame advantage. If u jump and then do the move normally he can get thrown. Tiger kneeing it and jumping then doing it makes it completely different.
lol…no… just NO.
Tiger kneeing the move does not give it frame advantage plz, come on now. Kim is at the distadvantage PERIOD. If you were at a advantage you would not be able to tiger knee hishou kyaku and then throw would you? Nope you can throw them in the first place beacuse YOU are at the disadvantage.
Tiger kneeing the move makes no difference other then its just faster thus harder for a opponent to react to. If gives you no real difference in frames.(and if it did it wouldnt be enough to combo off of)If it did give advantage you sure as hell would see it way more as well you could combo after it etc most likely…
Anyway no just no lol… shakes head lol
Oh and why would you do duck k, stand fierce, when duck p, stand fierce is a acctual combo? Shrug seems kinda pointless.
Damn, i sure was.
Anyways, FS is right. No frame advantage after TK qcf+k. I thought there was frame advantage since i never got hit out of, never. I was doing it all the time at the CTF tourney on sat. and no one caught me, i even did it against arturo’s rolento, fucking rolento with the best jab in the game:lol: . Anyways yeah i was wrong and i’ll fix it.
Comboing into any of the qcb k moves is tantamount to suicide (Wish they knocked down .:bluu: )
It depends on the character he plays against. But generally the lk and mk version of his qcb+k should be used the most. I only use the hk version when i wanna setup roll into whatever. I’ll do c.lk, c.lp, c.mk, qcb+hk, roll c.lk, c.lp, s.lk, walk s.lk then wait a split second to see what they do. If they can’t duck kim’s s.fierce, then i poke with that, if they can then i short jump or walk up c.mk
TK air steps are extremely hard to punish. Even without frame advantage it is EXTREMELY difficult to punish a well TK’d air step from Kim. You’re lucky if you even get close enough to throw him and that’s easy to just tech out of. I always just tap f+FP just a bit after coming down from the TK air steps to tech anyone trying to throw me afterwards. Especially if they don’t immediately try to poke or uppercut me out of it. Pretty easy once you get the hang of it.
What happens when Kim combos into blade kick that’s suicide? Can you give me some examples?
Whenever somebody randomly roll cancels that move at me, then yeah, that’s definately suicide. I either roll through and combo his ass, or late airblock and combo his ass.
Whenever somebody properly combos the blade kick though, there’s never anything I can do to him afterwards. I’m talking like, d.LK, d.LP, d.MK xx qcb+K. It all perfectly combos, hit or block, and I can never hurt Kim after. Is there a trick or something?
edit: Oh yeah, all versions of Kim’s air crazy kicks give +/-0 on the hit or block. Like all other air-to-ground specials in the game, whether it gives frame advantage or frame disadvantage depends on where you were in the air when the move started, and how deep or high your attack landed.
U can hit kim depending on the character after a blocked qcb+mk or hk.blanka can reversal lvl 3 blanka ball and sagat can reversal lvl 3 low tiger cannon. But u gotta have perfect timing to hit him. Blanka should never ever ever ever ever block c.lk,c.lp,c.mk qcp+mk or hk because he can do counter hit RC electricity or lvl 3 kim between it as long as he is blocking low. one thing i do is s.lk, walk up c.mkxxqcb+lk or c.mkxxqcb+mk. OR i vary the timing, c.lk,c.lp pause, c.mkxxqcb+k. IF u miss the reversal against kim expect to get hit by a lvl 3 qcb,hcf+k, roll throw, or roll combo.
