FMJ - You can’t “MAKE” people play a game. The game has to build it’s fame on it’s own. I myself am a hardcore Jojo’s player so I’m not against this at all. The reasons for the game being a cult hit makes sense.
Also, how would you increase the number of players that will play from 0 if there are 0 players that play? Announcing a Jojo’s tournament at Texas Showdown 6 would catch my attention but it won’t make people that don’t play go out and buy/practice the game. Not in the US.
The game is an inanimate object, I don’t know how “it” is going to do anything but sit there. It’s up to the players what happens from there.
You don’t have to make anyone play, if 0 people played, this thread wouldn’t come up every 6 months, and it wouldn’t be any sort of cult hit. There are obviously people, there is just no organization, no marketing, and basically they aren’t getting their own game a chance to even come out on the field.
In the end I think balance and tiers and whatever else you guys argue about when your game isn’t doing well isn’t the issue. There are plenty of so-so to bad games that get more people than all of SF, the question is what are jojo’s and VS players doing to get the #s? Convince me that it’s a good game? ok sure, I think VF4 is a good game too, didn’t help it’s cause much.
My posts are a clarification of WHY the game isn’t being played not a plea to get the game more attention.
The point is, the game is good, but not played enough to get recognition.
There are alot of answers to solve this but most of them aren’t worth it.
this is kind of offtopic, but no, it hasnt hit US shores really…NGBC is only in the same hotspots as usual (ie, cali, NYC, a few other places.) rest of the USA is assed out for the most part unless it can be imported on ps2 or if it sees a usa release on xbox. until that happens, no “srk experts” will be breaking down anything, since noone has had a chance to play the game
Well, it is safe to assume that if the Japanese players have not found anything broken after more than a month of playing, “SRK experts” aren’t likely to discover any ground breaking, logic defying, balance shaking tricks.
Besides, this is SNK§ stuff. You rather trust the Japanese for authentic information or… them? :karate:
top players, when they get ahold of the game, break it down just fine. for example go to the front page of srk and look at some of those old strategy articles. they are very good. of course i trust japanese opinion, cause it actually has a large arcade scene, who wouldn’t?
hell, ngbc has been out for a month or so here, but i haven’t played it cause i’m waiting for it to hit chinatown fair…
Ask that Daigo kid who owned someone in the DarkStalkers tourney in 98. The same guy who has received praise for his skills years afterwards.
p.s. who is making all of those iPod spoofs? I loved the Mai and Adon one. hahaha
Are you saying that US players aren’t capable of finding broken shit on their own?
i was thinking of getting jojo i spotted it somewhere (not gonna say where LOLOLOLOLOL) so now i know its worth getting from the debate its brought up
if the game is tourney worthy then make the effort to big it up, short complaints wont do shit lol it looks like a case of “yeah the games good they should put it in a tourny…”
round people up make the effort man
Problem is, no one will. Where’s PiGNutZ in this whole debate?? LOL :-p. BTW, after seeing like 3 Jotaro match vids, and couple of Dio’s, it’s not even worth doing “The World” anymore LOL.
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So, in summary, this is the real question:
You have a game (i.e. Jojo), with ZERO arcade scene. We’re not talking SvC or whatever you want zero, we’re talking, “Does anyone even know if one of these machines exists in north america?” zero. The game itself is obscure, and ports are only on two dead consoles and with no online service. The game is further not “hot stuff” in any part of Asia.
How do you create an active, competitive scene for this thing?
You can’t just say, “get ppl together and play the game”; at best, you’ve got a game that you and your pals play in your house.
Granted. But since Japanese arcade scene is more geared/inclined towards SNK§ games than the US arcade scene, I just happen to assign more weight to comments that I read from them. You still have to play test whatever they said to confirm the information but generally speaking, I believe them more. :X
However there are a LOT of people here who doesn’t believe the Japanese. KOF tier list from Japan; “NO, they are wrong, cos my list is different.” But when you say they play the game more and at least acknowledge that they are entitled to their POVs, people here go, " yeah, but they are still wrong."
Do you require me to dig up this thread for your viewing pleasure?
Hush with the nationalistic patriotism. You expect me to believe that NGBC is played for more than a month in Japan and they did not find major balancing breaking issues and less than 2 weeks of play time and the US figured out everything and anything?
On topic: I would suggest using the newer games out than those 2 games. One thing the newer games would have over those 2 games would be higher flow of player traffic. :X