yes they are
Why don’t you try Seimitsu’s PS-14-D-N(???) Buttons? i think they are the best for start and select.
is sanwa or seimitsu mostly used in japan ? specicialy 2d fighters
who told you that? pretty much all the japs play2d fighters on sanwa or seimitsu sticks (with square restrictors)
^ Tekken 5, dark resurrection, virtua fighter 5 and some 2D fighting games (some of arc system works games) use Sanwa JLF and buttons.
Almost all shumps, capcom and snk’s old school fighting games along with virtua fighter 4 (on some cabinets) use variations of Seimitsu sticks and buttons.
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Almost all Japanese cabinets use Sanwa buttons. Some may use Seimitsu sticks but usually with Sanwa buttons.
alright, so i just got off the phone with this store that claims to have the HRAP3 for the PS3. but the thing is, the guy who I was speaking with told me that his store has 2 versions; a smaller one for $60, and a bigger one for $135.
being the cheap guy that I am, I’m going for the smaller, $60 one. but i have never seen this one before. I tried googling for it, and all I see is the same red and black HRAP.
anyway, what im basically asking is about the HRAP3’s compatibility with my PS2, and DC. I read the first post where the OP said that the orignal HRAP was compatible with converters, but I didnt see any info like that for the HRAP3.
I’m at work right now, so somebody just link me to the post where it says whether or not HRAP3 is compatible for DC and PS2, and which converters(no lag, of course).
now backtracking to my phone conversation with the store’s seller, what is it with these different sizes im hearing of? if there really is a smaller version of the HRAP3, can that one also use a converter to play on the DC and PS2?
I know how ‘hands on’ these HRAP sticks are, so im trying to run over to the store asap tommorrow and just pick it up. but i really want to know more about what im in for beforehand.
they must be refering to the Hori Fighting Stick 3 for the smaller version of a HRAP, this is not tha same as the HRAP, the HFS uses all Hori buttons and stick, while HRAP uses Sanwa JLF for stick and hori buttons, as for the HRAP3 being compatible with PS2 and DC it is not, HRAP1 or 2 are compatible due they have the normal PS hooker, while the HRAP3 uses USB that onle PS3 and PC recognize, hope that helps.
alright. thanks for your time. you just saved me a headache and some money.
argh, this is bullshit. why are HRAPs soo hard to find?
I’m thinking about settling for this HFS:
http://www.oneswitch.org.uk/1/AGS/AGS-large/fightingstick.htm
it says it compatible for PC, DC, PS, and so forth.
so which is better in your opinion? HRAP or HFS? I want to make sure that there isnt any performance differences between the two, such as one stick being more sturdy and harder to control than the other.
anyone with any experience with a HFS? is there any lag when you convert them for different consoles?
Hori Fighting Sticks suck compared to the Real Arcade Pro line.
Akihabarashop.jp can get you a HRAP for PS2 but they may have sold out of the HRAP2:SA and you will have to wait a month or two for the HRAP1 amazon versions they will stock. If you preorder you will also get 10% off all the items in the store so you can get a discount on the Sanwa buttons and button plugs for L1/L2.
Dasiatic, save your money for the REAL ARCADE PRO 3! Don’t even think about the HFS, NO don’t think about it!!!
HRAP3 will cost you more than HFS and then it will cost you to mod the stick with sanwa buttons. i get my HRAP3 for only 90$ from a nearby store in my town but then it costs me again just to mod the buttons.
The stock Hori buttons in HRAP3 are the worst! & maybe the buttons in HFS are slightly better with a worthless Hori Joystick, that is much more worse than sanwa jlf-tp-8y-sk,
If it is your first stick and you are not going to mod it then HFS is not bad for the price.
my knowledge on arcade sticks is next to nothing, so i dont know what modding my stick would do for me.
right now, im just looking for a HRAP that can flawlessly convert to different consoles.
The HRAP3 is officially scratched off my list as of now. according to you guys, it cant convert. it doesnt really matter how bad the stock buttons are at this point. if it doesnt convert, its an automatic elimination.
so which ones can convert with no problems again? HRAP2? which ever it is, im looking at that right now.
the only big problem for me now is finding a HRAP.
thanks again for the help you guys.
how did you guys find your fucking HRAPs anyway? they seem so rare.
oh yeah, and another thing. on the arcade pad, the actual arcade stick that you use to move around, are the HRAP sticks flexible?
I mean, most arcades i remember going to, thier arcade sticks are big and clunky. way too hard to move around. it takes alot of effort just to do a single QCF on that thing. I hope the HRAPs arent like that.
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=154744 well here is one, fully modded, no need to add anything, ready to use and will last you forever, i have had mine for more than a year with stock parts and i have ever opened due to problems, ill open it when my buttons arrive to modd it with sanwa buttons :tup:
wait. by the way you’re presenting it, it kinda looks like you’re selling that to me. lol.
anyway, thanks for the time out. say, what does Sanwa buttons do? and for the HRAP you have, is the stick fluid, and easy to control? i cant stand big and clunky sticks thats hard to move with.
Sanwa is a popular brand of arcade parts. See this thread (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=118289) and it should answer most of your questions. As for the stick itself, its nice and loose and requires little effort in moving it.
Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK is the ultimate stick in the universe nothing can come close to it, and the same goes for Sanwa OBSF-30 buttons!
Sanwa is second to none!
I agree for the buttons but don’t count out the LS-32-01. That and the JLF are my absolute favs.
Sorry but i tried LS-32-01 already and it was a huge disappointment and i can’t get used to it at all. It needs strong arm with faster and more precise response from the player, and there is a huge gape for mistakes.
No one will know how great SANWA sticks and buttons can be unless he already tried SEIMITSU sticks and buttons!