I’m a very patient person but this whole akihabara shop thing is getting frustrating. I’m starting to think they won’t have this thing handled till well into next year. I wish they could just tell us because I don’t intend on waiting that long for a hit box.
Hit Box crew, do you guys know of any converters that work with your ps3 hit box? I read that someone tried one and it didn’t work. Also if one is used will the SOCD fixes still be in place on a 360?
This might be the option for me because frankly I would like to enjoy my hit box before the end of the year at the latest.
I’m right there with ya. I would suggest making your own. You can make one for way cheaper that does the exact same thing. You can get the SOCD cleaning to work with ANY PCB and/or dual mod by using whats called a 7400 chip to filter the inputs. Hitbox could have been doing this the whole time and selling xbox 360 hitbox’s but it appears they want to lose out on my 160 dollars.
You know that jab wasn’t necessary at all. We haven’t been going with something like that because we are not a custom shop. We sell a uniform product, not a 360 padhack. If you were too impatient to wait for the PS360+ that’s fine, all we care about is more people playing on our layout.
What he’s saying it, it doesn’t effect anyone negatively if you could OPT to offer an option to provide 360 MC HitBoxes for a higher price if the efforts demand it, and if the quality for it would be the same if you were using a 360+, I’m sure, people wouldn’t mind paying a bit more.
Also, is like Akishop the only shop in the whole world that offers the hardware you’re looking for? What if all of a sudden they closed down due to some drastic tragedy, what would you do? I wouldn’t sit around.
It’s the challenge and responsibility HitBox took upon itself when you guys went public.
I think what it comes down to is that padhacks are slightly janky, and definitely more prone to failure than a uniform PCB. A well-done pad-hack can look decent internally, but more PCBs = more points of failure, especially when one of the PCB’s was not designed to be used for that purpose in the first place. Soldering to membrane switch contacts, while it works (obviously), just is not reliable. It also takes more time to manufacture a worse product. They want to put out a working, reliable product that they can stand behind, and not rely on PCB’s that they ripped out of controllers; it’s a matter of uniformity, repeatability, and reputation control: A pad-hack is sub-par, relative to a PCB designed for the job, and they don’t want to stake their reputation on what is, quite literally, a hack-job. Nothing wrong with that. If you want a Dual-Modded Hit Box, you buy a PS3 Hit Box, and support your local modder. The end result for you is the same, but if it ever fails, they don’t have to worry about you coming to them complaining that they sold you defective kit.
The problem with making a 360 padhack besides being time consuming compared to what we’re doing now is that it’s a temporary solution, and we’re not looking for temporary solutions, we’re looking for permanent ones. The quality wouldn’t be the same because the end result would look shoddy, wouldn’t fit in the mounting brackets of our case, you’d have a product that you couldn’t mod as easily, and you wouldn’t get the benefit of our new case design that allows you to swap out USB cords without even having to remove the top plate. Essentially we’d have to do a new run of cases just to fit the 360 PCB, which is ridiculous.
Then there’s the issue of making all of these new 360 PCB’s clean SOCD so they work like our other PCB. We’d have to order a bunch of 7400 chips, which adds more to the cost for us, more wiring, it would increase the time it would take to finish a box, error fixing would take longer, and we’d have to balance making PS3 boxes alongside the new 360 boxes, and you can best believe everyone would suffer a most likely much longer wait.
If Akishop suddenly went out of business we would move on to what we think would be the best for us and the best for our customers. That’s what we’ve always been trying to do since day 1. Yes, Akishop has put a great deal of people on hold for an excruciatingly long time, but we feel that the PS360 is the best board on the market right now for us and our customers and we stand by that. Beyond that we want to keep making a uniform product that looks professional and doesn’t vary form box to box so that once you’ve seen one Hit Box you’ve seen them all, which makes repairs and modding easier for the community.
Like I said, if you want to be impatient because the PS360 is taking too long I understand, but there’s no need to come here and be condescending when all we’re trying to do is get our customers the best possible product we can. We don’t want to wait this long just as much as you don’t, but there’s nothing we can do about it and as much as we want to get something out to the customers we refuse to do it at the cost of quality. We want to make the best possible product and sell it for as cheap as possible, selling a lower quality box for a higher price because it took a lot longer to make is out of the question, so while we’re waiting for the PS360+ to come out we’re going to be making PS3 boxes as fast as we can to get those orders taken care of first so that when it does release we can focus our attention on getting as many tri-mod boxes out the door as fast as we possibly can.
To alleviate the wait for those in line for PS360, and give them and us something to look forward too. Where would Hit Box like to go from here? Sure we have a uniform product now, but what are some fun features being thought about for the future?
A very basic one I have thought about is the bottom of the Hit Box. Currently it has nothing, and that works. With all buttons it really isn’t an issue if you are in a chair with your legs mostly level. However, I like sit on my heels in the floor and I have to use the weight of my palms to hold the Hit Box in place. Most sticks have feet and recently they added a felt fabric bottom. I am not a fan of either as the feet leave prints on your leg and felt gets nasty looking over time. It is probably top secret, but what are those at Hit Box thinking about for the bottom of the Hit Box?
First of all I apologize for seeming rude or disrespectful. I had already asked the question why you hadn’t just used the 7400 chips before and received no answer. So I just assumed you didn’t really care. I just thought it was weird that you were suggesting buying a PS3/PC hitbox and dual mod it myself and you weren’t offering the option of you guys just dual modding it and selling it for a higher price. I guess I mistook it for laziness since you could have already been whittling down the 360 list this entire time which seems to be way more productive than waiting almost a year for a single PCB. I don’t really see how it’s a lesser quality product when you’re suggesting it in the first place. But as I’ve stated before, I’m sorry about the condescending tone. I really love the idea of your product. I just can’t wait any longer. It’s really frustrating when I’ve been playing on this crappy PDP stick for the last 2-3 months and I can’t bring myself to go out and buy a better stick because I know I’m just eventually going to have one of these, and sticks I buy in the meantime would just be a huge waste of money. So I feel like I’m not playing to my full potential when I know there’s something out there that will enhance my execution.
I understand how you feel and I don’t like it any more than you do. If it was up to me we’d be making our own PCB’s so that we wouldn’t have to worry about anyone else slowing us down, but going through those hoops are a lot harder than you’d imagine. We’ve been in close contact with Akishop during this whole thing and that’s probably the biggest reason we’ve decided to stick it out with them even though there are other alternatives that are available right now. We really do firmly believe that the PS360 is the best PCB for us and you, and if you don’t wait for it no one can blame you, but if you do I think you’ll see why once you have it in your hands.
Thanks for the response! If you felt my comment was a rant, it wasn’t, it was just something in my head, I expressed. I will continue to wait, I hope my Spot in line for the tri mods is still safe when AkiShop get’s finished. So, I apologize, if I came off that way.
I just wanted to ask you that the 360+ HitBoxes will perform just as well as the current PS3 HitBoxes correct? With all the SOCD, Execution, and such tinkered with to ease the use of the product.
Quick question JohnGrimm. Reo has had a couple issues with his hitbox where it just randomly stops working. It happened at season’s beatings in the middle of a top 8 match. But apparently it was due to the usb cable just barely coming loose from the neutrik connector. Is this a common issue or something that’s quite rare?
It shouldn’t be common, I was quite surprised to see it happen. I wouldn’t expect it to be a serious problem, but it’s definitely something we need to look into more.
This is caused by the usb cable being tugged? Like when you wrap the cord around a controller? I dont know what a neutrik connector is. Thats something that USB interfaces with inside the box, right?
The piece inside the connector does seem rather shakey and likely easy to break. Which is fine, but probably a good idea to unplug it when you are not playing. I certainly unplug it when I put it into my bag, because I dont want to drop my bag and it fall on the usb and wreck that connector.
Has anyone played other games with your Hit Box? I just discovered that the directional buttons control both analog and d-pad. Makes it rather interesting to play COD and your killstreaks engage when you move right. I suppose it is good to have it to do that, though. Given that if it was decided that directions were to be analog, then Virtua Fighter 5 would be unplayable as the game only takes directional inputs from the d-pad.
