Hit Box - We so S Tier1!

rtdzign · August 6, 2011, 9:42pm

Have you guys considered going the Paewang Revolution PS3/Xbox 360 pcb from etokki.com?

abandonist · August 7, 2011, 12:03am

I talked to them about that already.
They didn’t want to go that route.

jdm714 · August 7, 2011, 12:15am

JohnGrimm:

Phreakazoid187:

If you guys really want to just fill the gen2 pre-orders why don’t you guys just pay someone a little to pop in paewang boards if you can’t do it yourself? They’re identical and you know…you could fill orders now instead of waiting and just making more people angry. Hell, Laugh sells wire harnesses for them.

First of all, the Paewang board is already a lot more expensive than pretty much every other board on the market, which would add cost to each box. Second of all, paying someone to do it for us is completely unnecessary, a giant waste of time, and throwing in another party we’d have to deal with if we wanted to produce product, which we really don’t need right now. Lastly, the Paewang takes a lot longer to work with than the boards we’re using now (error checking and fixing especially would take three times longer). I don’t know if you’ve ever had to mass produce a product before, but taking a long time to complete one unit is completely unacceptable and would make it so we’d take forever to get anything done, not to mention we’d have to go out and buy more tools and things more frequently just so we could have everyone working on boards at the same time.

We’d like to fill our pre-orders, but we’d also like to have a process we can keep using into the future so that everyone gets a uniform product instead of everyone with a pre-order gets something we rushed out just so we could get something to them.

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inControl:

Phreakazoid187:

Not sure if you meant it this way, but thanks for coming off as a huge jerk, it’s appreciated. It was merely a suggestion so that you could fill orders for people now instead of having to sit and wait for something that is still tentative in finish date (and even that’s a ways off). If you’ve got someone that can solder, mounting and attaching to a paewang takes very little time since everything is laid out hella nice. (Have 1 guy do the soldering, the others do daisy chains, etc.) I have no stake in this, it just seems like there’s a lot of customers waiting and it seems like a viable option. I’m sure your customers would appreciate the extra effort on your end, but the answer of “well…we’re waiting on x and y” seems to be working pretty good for you now, so go with that. I know the customers who got their stuff sold at Revelations are extra happy with that model.

Price wise, they’re identical unless you’re counting “pre order” pricing from focusattack. Laugh would probably get you quantity discounts too. Just food for thought.

I think it’s great that people are interested in this, It would just be a shame for you guys to lose customers from the waiting.

He wasnt trying to be a jerk, trust me i know him IRL and he doesnt have the capacity to be a dick, honestly you just read that wrong. Now moving on to back up what john said in a less jerky way i guess lol.

We can go the routes you guys are suggesting (using different boards etc) but honestly we cant/wont do that. Trust me when I say that we searched and exhausted all possible options in regards to everything about the hit box. From the case to the insides, the ps 360 board at the end would have been the fastest and cheapest way possible to go about making the Hit box’s with. The team of builders is 4 guys, with real jobs and real life priorities. The no soldering on the ps360 and its legit status among modders was just the premium choice. With that said we already made an initial investment in the ps360, However, we did not forsee the incident that happened in japan which is causing all these delays. Moving to another 3rd party would cause further financial delays.

We also do not want to sell premature hit box’s with different components that we havent really fully tested yet and then later on start selling different hit box’s with different components. To us that will not create a uniform product to our satisfaction. So we chose to be patient and wait on the ps360.

Theres alot i cannot say about this in public and I dont want to sound like a bank statement “we appreciate your patience and we are sorry for any inconvenience” But we really DO! Simple interest is driving us to continue this project and trust me we are working ourselves to the bone to provide you guys with such a kick ass product. We just ask a little bit more patience .

thank you

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Tawler · August 7, 2011, 5:15am

Will 360 models (dual or not) have the benefit of going neutral to avoid SOCD’s?

inControl · August 7, 2011, 10:19am

Yes! We have a process that actually overrides pre programed state of scod’s in the game (mvc3). So no double blocks. No walking back sonic booms etc

PurpleLemonadeGGPO · August 7, 2011, 11:24am

If I buy the PS3 only hitbox right now and install the Paewang myself, will I still have the possibility of SOCD?

inControl · August 7, 2011, 8:28pm

That’s a good question. But I believe that will be the case. That’s only an issue in mvc3 on the 360. But come umvc3 nitsuma confirmed that issue being fixed

Jimbo13 · August 8, 2011, 1:03am

Anyone out there go from stick to hitbox?

I’m playing around with mine now, what was your learning curve like? So far it’s a little rough, found some fun tricks and I can pull a few combo’s I had trouble with before but I’m missing basic blocks here and there.

abandonist · August 8, 2011, 1:51am

High/low blocking is the hardest part for me.

Stutter · August 8, 2011, 2:06am

Half circles was really hard for me starting out. I don’t play grapplers anymore but 360 wasn’t too hard to get. Able to do it normally going both directions starting from back or down/back. I still can’t do 720’s well enough even with jumping. I always end up spamming the buttons thinking it’ll work. I’m sure if I actually devote some time practicing it, it’d be better.

Never had trouble blocking. Although I feel like my down button is starting to wear out…

Jimbo13 · August 8, 2011, 2:33am

DP execution is insane with the SF4 short cuts, I play honda and can really slam well with it. high low blocks are trouble and the jump button thus far really feels foreign and guiding my cross overs is tricky.

itsTroyer · August 8, 2011, 8:17am

ARRGGHH!! I can’t wait to get my hands on one! I want to experience this learning curve first-hand!

Jimbo13 · August 8, 2011, 8:40am

After about a hour so far I can pull off a lot of nice spam tricks, can’t do a 720, 360’s are rough.

I find I can high/low block well holding back and using down like a block button.

jesseBoKe · August 9, 2011, 12:31am

This is a bummer. I really want to support you guys but I don’t want to wait for PS360+. I already have an extra TE 360 PCB that I’d like to build a hitbox out of with 24mm buttons. If you guys won’t sell just a DIY case, I wonder if a custom builder out there would be willing? Does anyone know if one of the builders is already creating something like this, so that I may not have to pay hundreds of dollars just for the case? I’m open to any material really though lighter would be better if I had a choice.

Really wish I could just buy directly from you guys though, since I can handle all the buttons/wiring myself Please PM me if you change your stance on this because I’d love to support you and this product.

I guess another option is to get in line for a PS3/PC one and hope I could mod it with my TE pcb… but I wonder how long I’d have to wait?

RAWRzilla22 · August 9, 2011, 1:31am

V3 of my unofficial Hitbox template! Now with customizable button colors!

JohnGrimm · August 9, 2011, 2:31am

Hope you don’t mind, but I made a few minor adjustments to your template.

I included both logos, the black/white and the white/black variation for dark backgrounds, and I moved the button symbols to a (in my opinion) cleaner position and made them individual layers instead of one layer. I also made the button color scheme the same as my first Hit Box just because.
http://www.mediafire.com/?d5d9h59envj39kp

RAWRzilla22 · August 9, 2011, 9:13pm

Baller. Looks great. When the official button positions are released, we’ll have a decent template you can actually cut artwork from.

butteroj · August 10, 2011, 4:10am

Woot. Got my email today and ordered! Cant wait to learn something new!

BarSoap · August 10, 2011, 4:36am

Gratz! Out of curiosity when did you add yourself to the waiting list?

butteroj · August 10, 2011, 4:52am

I honestly dont remember. Maybe in march?