Help for changing from keyboard to arcade stick

Gross_Indecency · 2011-10-23T03:53:57.000Z

Vegaman:

your points shouldnt start over. They are saved online not on your computer

REALLY? They were being saved on my computer in Vanilla! I would be really happy if that’s the case!

Vegaman · 2011-10-23T03:55:48.000Z

Gross_Indecency:

REALLY? They were being saved on my computer in Vanilla! I would be really happy if that’s the case!

shouldnt be. should be saved on GFWL servers

otherwise you run the risk of people hacking their points like mad

Densuo · 2011-10-23T10:49:35.000Z

Francys_Pai:

Pad players moving to stick suffer the same issue if they keep switching.

Be patient. You won’t learn stick over night. It took me a good two months to be comfortable with just using one, and a little longer to be fully confident. You’ll get there, just perseverance and patience is key.

This a hundred thousand million times.

I want to emphasize that you stick to one thing, and that you SLOW DOWN your inputs.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve done QCB x2 + 3K and instead get DP + 2k

Gross_Indecency · 2011-10-23T18:43:52.000Z

Vegaman:

shouldnt be. should be saved on GFWL servers

otherwise you run the risk of people hacking their points like mad

Yes, all my points, colors, titles and everything is gone. So that’s why people are hacking their points. They are saved on the computer.

Vegaman · 2011-10-23T20:19:01.000Z

Gross_Indecency:

Yes, all my points, colors, titles and everything is gone. So that’s why people are hacking their points. They are saved on the computer.

that is such a dumb move by capcom then

titles, colors, and other shit should be gone but points? yeah that’s just begging for people to hack their points.

Haztlan · 2011-10-23T22:54:17.000Z

Yeah, there are guys with 99999999 points. Amazing, right? ;/

hadouzero · 2011-11-11T01:57:42.000Z

Monster637:

props to you guys ,i can not even imagine playing with a keyboard. How do you guys jump in Up and right key at the same time, how do you do a Dp.forwar down forward… dont feel bad i grew up down the street from some grungy arcades and can only play stick…i cant use a d-pad to save my life or do a dp, charge chars though i can roll with just fine.

Guess its more of what you are raised on kinda thing…

It does depend on what you grew up with. But to be honest, the keyboard is pretty easy if you put make it HitBox style where you have the up on the space bar. Most KB users grew up using the WASD format, and it was hell on your fingers executing 360 moves in strict command inputs like in SF2. Though games like SF4 is alot easier to execute in.

As for the TC, go with the HitBox controller dude. I’m a KB user myself and I’m considering of getting one as well. Either that or just get a good keyboard like choc mini. It takes a while to get good with the stick, give it 2 weeks and you’ll somewhat get it. Problems you’ll try to overcome later on are specific side dashes, 360 moves, and fast execution of supers.

Emersion · 2011-11-11T02:51:57.000Z

Densuo:

This a hundred thousand million times.

I want to emphasize that you stick to one thing, and that you SLOW DOWN your inputs.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve done QCB x2 + 3K and instead get DP + 2k

Dont worry man, still happens too justing wong every tournament he goes to nowadays :lol:

Gross_Indecency · 2011-12-02T22:12:26.000Z

Well, turned back to this after some time. Now for 2 days I’ve only been playing with stick. So no online for me for awhile.

But I just wonder, does it improve your gameplay? When you get comfortable with stick and get used to it completely do you play better than the previous instrument you were comfortable with (keyboard/pad) ? Or its just because arcade stick is the tradition of fighting games that everyone plays with them?

And seriously I am just grateful I’m not using a command char. I can’t still make a SRK, but completed Vega’s trials with the stick.

Scarlet_Rabbi · 2011-12-03T01:22:51.000Z

To do an SRK with a stick just hit down-forward twice + punch.

Vegaman · 2011-12-03T01:55:17.000Z

i still think you should stick to keyboard or hitbox

just my 2 cents

Gross_Indecency · 2011-12-03T03:03:20.000Z

i still think you should stick to keyboard or hitbox

just my 2 cents

Why would you think that and shatter my EVO dreams

Seriously, people make fun of me for still playing with a keyboard. You are the only person that says “stick to keyboard”. Why? Does it not matter that much?

Vegaman · 2011-12-03T03:47:29.000Z

Why would you think that and shatter my EVO dreams

Seriously, people make fun of me for still playing with a keyboard. You are the only person that says “stick to keyboard”. Why? Does it not matter that much?

not really. I still play with a 6 button pad.

unless you’re having execution problems, or you really have a need to switch… in this game it doesnt really matter. In something liek CvS2 or HDR or A3 it does because the pace of the game is so much faster…

because SSF4 is so slow it’s really irrelevant on what you use. If you’re comfy sticking on keyboard stick with it and work on other things like strategy, footsies, etc. Adding execution to the mix just makes things harder for you in the near term.

Besides… it’s more fun to see something different than something that everyone else uses. So in the event you make it on stream it works out better… (for me at least)

btw there’s no requirement that says you cannot use a keyboard at evo.

Haztlan · 2011-12-03T08:49:45.000Z

SFIV doesnt recognize the keyboard (not on PS3 at least)
When I plugged my keyboard on the console, browsed in the internet with it, and then went to play SF and that shit just didnt worked, I almost cried.

Vegaman · 2011-12-03T10:05:57.000Z

i’m sure if you check the tech thread there’s someone that can do one up for you with any button config you want. You may not be able to type with it but as for playing the game it should be fairly easy

Gross_Indecency · 2011-12-04T03:12:20.000Z

I must say, I’m very surprised here. I can pull every frigging link much more easily with arcade stick. The 2 frames, they never miss. And the ratio of the success of 1 frames is much higher. But this is thanks to the buttons on the stick. The sense of direction though is very wierd. I guess that thing I see sometimes, that device which has buttons for directions, would be the perfect thing for me. But I don’t even know its name :S

Gross_Indecency · 2011-12-04T03:19:20.000Z

This. But why the fuck is the “up” button at the bottom? :S

Vegaman · 2011-12-04T16:01:15.000Z

This. But why the fuck is the “up” button at the bottom? :S

called a HitBox

and down being used by thumb is more finger friendly. you’re going to be using up far less than down. and the way your hand is positioned it’s easier to hold the middle finger down than the thumb. It also makes doing motions with down easier. There’s not a lot of motions that involve up but loads that involve down.

That’s the theory behind it anyway. I imagine it’s a 5 minute swap if you wanted up as the middle finger button though.

Gross_Indecency · 2011-12-13T04:06:30.000Z

I gave up this Arcade Stick idea, just to let it out. With it, I can link 1 frames but I cannot still do a back dash. This stick is just against my nature and my sense of direction I realised I don’t even want to play the game because of it. So, back to keyboard. Maybe I’ll buy a hitbox sometime. Anyway, I cannot be a pro with no offline scene in Turkey anyway

Vegaman · 2011-12-13T04:19:45.000Z

I gave up this Arcade Stick idea, just to let it out. With it, I can link 1 frames but I cannot still do a back dash. This stick is just against my nature and my sense of direction I realised I don’t even want to play the game because of it. So, back to keyboard. Maybe I’ll buy a hitbox sometime. Anyway, I cannot be a pro with no offline scene in Turkey anyway

move to a place with a scene…

and just stick with keyboard. You only need to swtich if keyboard isnt working.