Ranked 22 Vs Guile
Guile: "You’re gonna loose! I got Sonic Booms."
Adon: “Man… F your Sonic Booms!”
Waaaaaaay more composed Tiger. I really, really love that first round. I consider that retribution from that last Guile match you had. Although this Guile in particular did show a lot less of the tricks other guiles use, you certainly showed him that Zoning Adon with Sonic Booms is totally a bad idea. The only thing that would of made the fight more epic was if you had Taunt 9 and you dodged a Sonic Boom with it.
Things of interest
0:33-0:37 Guile throws the sonic boom and follows it. You walk back spacing yourself out and jk over it catching Guile in the process and because normal jk doesnt knockdown, you forcefully put him on his ass with a sweep.
0:43-0:45 After reset Guile throws another sonic boom and does his step knee to keep his charge and advance but a delayed air jk (you did this earlier but I felt it better to mention it here) tells Guile to cut that shit out.
0:58-0:59 Jumping lk. I am finding a problem that I am using this too much now. If timed right, knocks Guile out of flash kick but also can stop Honda’s butt slam and a few other ground to air moves. Not that jumping mk cant do it but I see it occur from jumping lk more often. Just watch out for jumping as a follow up against shotos as a dp will make you regret it.
2:16-2:17 “Where you going Guile?” Nice wake up n mk. I dont think I ever tried that as a wake up option but considering that Adon does kinda jump quickly maybe this is possible. Gotta test more out in training mode…
Ranked 23 Vs Gouken
You are really trying to destroy all Gouken’s online arent you? Your first round was pretty solid though the second round showed that Gouken was catching on to your flight patterns. There isnt too much I want to say of this match up but I will list two…
Things of Interest
1:19-1:21 I find that combo to be annoying from Gouken. I think this might have been one of Gouken’s changes as I have noticed that his neutral jump FP is now being used a lot more by Gouken players these days. You can even look at it like how we use nj rh.
1:38-1:39 Fighting a loosing Gouken up close means tech and watch for focus attacks. Any opening to use Ultra and they will take it. Remember that.
Going to do something else will post again in a bit because I really want to watch the rog match up and give my comments about that J Wong video I saw above.
Ranked 24 Vs Balrog
Hmm… Hmm… Hmm…
What I can say is that you have the right idea. Punish Balrog when the opportunity exists. He misses a dash punish? Kick him. He tries that overhead punch? Get outta the way and kick him. He crouches and tries to take a min like in Boxing when the round is over? Go up and kick him. Well you got the point. You were airborne just a bit much and watching you get Ultra’d in the first round was not that surprising at all (I know its odd me telling you about being airborne after you have seen some of my replays but meh…). You do want to watch out for being too airborne as I am almost sure Rogs headbutt auto corrects in some instances. Further that match actually could have went to Round 3 but lets look at those points of interest.
Things of Interest
0:28 Smooth, jk over Rog but really because Rog was still in throw animation. However I can give you this one since Adon recovered in time.
044:-0:51 Careful with Rog. When I first got in this match up, that head butt always got the better of me but that was because I was always pressing buttons. Be wise and treat Rog with just enough respect. Look at that headbutt as a dp and expect him to whip that out when he gets in a tough spot. In worse case, Ultra will follow.
0:53-0:54 Very excellent read. I do believe that overhead of Rog’s catches enough people sleeping. Its fast enough too and as Adon we should look for it so we can gtho and if not that at least block. Nice work Houdini.
1:41- This could have been a game changer. Being caught with this and Ultra’d would have really messed up this fight for you. The ultra would not have killed you but you would have been damn near close since you remain with about 40% (or so) health left at the end of the fight. It was a good thing that you ended the match.
I also do not wish to rain on your victory or look down on the Rog player but I believe that Rog player had a lot of opportunities that slipped and went along the wayside. A lot of his jump ins were empty, he over held charges (for extra blocking no doubt) and didnt try dash punching and could have used a lot more headbutts. Even after noticing all the jump ins by you he could have used jumping FP and speaking of that…
Eklypze (Boxer) Vs Justin Wong (Adon)
Before I get further into this let me first say A-don. Its pronounced A (as in the letter) don (as in Don King). Let me also say that people have their own tastes in music but I hate Adon’s theme music. Whenever I am playing as Adon and I want to hear my theme then I listen to this:
To me the SSF4 one just sucks ass.
Now that I am finished with my rant, on to this match.
I think that the Rog was unfamilar with this match up as well. At first you notice the Boxer players trait (holding down back) but then its like he gives it up to chase Adon. Wong did make fair comments though back jump FP is needed by Rog and Aggressive Rogs will be a problem for Adon’s. One thing I want to note that he didnt do in the match up was utilize ex-jk overhead which can score you 2 hits on Rog for sleeping on the job. Mixing up on Rog is good but at the same time you do wanna keep in mind the amount of time you stay in Rogs face. Also I was a bit surprised on how aggressive Wong’s Adon was. Usually he is aggressive when he is sure he has the match. Maybe thats changed but I am doubtful.
I fought a Rog player yesterday although I upon review I dont think I did that well but the Rog player is okay. I did some things right but i still got my share of kinks to work out as well. Gotta soon make my own thread just as soon as my Dazzle comes in the mail. Link below shows the match.
Well since Gouken trained Ken, I think its only fair to destroy him, if it wasn’t for him there would be no Ken, So no flowcharts lol. Seriously tho, imo he is ass (the char not the player) The only good thing he has or to be wary of is his parry move thing. His hurricane kick is terrible compared to the others, he has no srk, his demon flips are weak and easily countered. his fireballs are up there with dan and sakura for being bad (imo) he has no decent AA.
In regards to the guile match, it was the same person who I got the lucky EX jag tooth win. I do use Taunt 9 but I didn’t think about doing that which i’m sad about lol. I’ve started using n.j.mk a lot more than n.j.hk these days, it seems to be a lot quicker and so far seems to do the same job. Works really well against twin divekicks.
Ranked 25 Vs Sim
At the end of the first round the announcer should have said "Adon wins. Flawless Victory"
You stayed with Sim and he went into panic mode whenever you got close. Pretty good. My main gripe and only point of interest is
1:36-1:42 He did Yoga catashtropy and you jumped over. That is Sims Ultra trap. You think you can just simply jump over, sim says “Nope, back you go!” In my opinion ex jt through it (although you had no bar in this case) or just back dash and wait it out. Even taking the block damage would have been better (although Sim could teleport and make this a cross up). So yeah, that my main gripe with that match.
Ranked 26 Vs Cody
WTF! I cant believe you rushed down a Cody. Seriously this is one of my most hated match ups. Then again we are talking about Tiger…
My last comments were against rushing Cody down. After playing a few against him though, I would like to withdraw that statement. Rush his ass down. Fighting him from a distance puts Adon at a disadvantage. With his frametraps, fighting up close kinda puts Adon in a sticky situation as well in my opinion but with him at a certain distance I think Adon stands a chance.
Things of Interest
0:27 Those damn rocks… Those rocks are what makes fighting Cody at a distance difficult. While he is throwing rocks from far away, he could have a zonk knuckle waiting for you to fly over them with jt just so he can smack you out of it.
0:38 I had forgotten his nj FP could knock you out of rh jk and the reason is because of jk start up (dont forget Adon has to flip over first) Against Cody in particular, you want to either hide this move or do randomly.
0:48 As said, Cody can just knock you outta jt with many options so its a move that will pretty much be ineffective in this fight.
Ranked 27 Vs. Sagat
Now here is a fun match up. Sagat doesnt want you in close. You want to be in close. See where the fun begins…
Sagat definitely wants to keep you out and will try to zone you with Tiger shots, Tiger knees and other little fun stuff of his. Your mission should you accept it is to make your way in and try to stay in long enough to do enough damage before he forward throws your ass out.
Things of Interest
0:26 High step kick from Sagat at the beginning of the match means that he is afraid of that jk that you got.
0:31-0:34 Sagat will from time to time make you run the Tiger obstacle course. With 2 different heights and 3 different speeds this can be a difficult course to run not even looking at resetting the situation once you get close to the goal. I have been playing red light, green light when Gat starts his projectile spam. Jump one, block one. Walk block one, stay block one. Jump two etc. I try not to make too much of a pattern or be too rushy about getting in because I dont want to get tiger uppercut once i get close. Using air jk is fine but to me its kinda risky because of what happened at 0:50.
1:45-1:48 lol dont get too cocky… Taunt 9 is good but dont forget you cant cancel it until Adon gets back on his feet. With that said why were you going taunt, focus, taunt. I would have thought the better option would be taunt, focus, nj and repeat. The speed of the last tiger shot was faster than the others hence the reason you got hit. If it was indeed another slow one you probably would have cleared it.
2:30 I think he caught on to the fact that you had Ultra, hence the reason he didnt throw more projectiles. Luckily he forgot this at 2:44 when he throwed that out and you got the JR. I do wonder though if your action (or lack thereof) at 2:40 had something to do with it. He might have gotten the impression that you didnt have the reaction for it or something.
3:03-3:10 Sagats who try to rush you down are fighting fear within themselves. They know fighting you from the outside isnt working and test you to see how you can deal with the pressure. In those moments its just best to wait and punish appropriately.
3:28 Good way to be in control. You saw what he was doing and punished appropriately.
You were right about the Sagat I was trying to be to clever and he did catch me out lol altho as you can’t taunt 9 over his high fireballs he would of nailed me anyway. I had a feeling I would get the JR opportunity at least once and as I was way down on health I decided to throw out a jab thinking he would TS and I would have enough time to pull off the ultra since the jab is so fast. I shall upload a few more Saturday including a few matches with the number1 Gen on xbox live. He’s a really dear friend who lives in canada and we have a lagless connection which is cool since i enjoy playing his gen even tho i lose 98% of the time lol. I have also finally fixed the quality and gotten rid of the fuzzyness/blurryness so they’re more clearer now. Thanks again for all the analysis you do, I really do enjoy reading your breakdowns and such. And trying to learn from some of your suggestions.
Ok, I put up some new vids earlier and have just finished putting up the rest. While i was capturing the replays Gamerbee was playing ranked so i decided to wait and get a few of his replays to upload, So the gb replays are up and only happened about an hour ago.
Well a few moments to look at em. In case you have seen it yet, we (yes this includes you) have a new match up thread which needs information. Time for us to become the Jaguar Assassins…
Not too sure i’d be much help, You’ve seen my vids lol. I’m mediocre at best. My advice would be to play the exact opposite as I do lol. Did learn today that you can throw Rogs EX dash punch if that’s any use (it’s probably common knowledge already tho)
Yea i saw just added the Rog bit. Going on break now since I finished post 2 but damn didnt realize how many tips were in the original thread. Good thing I have a holiday on Monday (Independence day Bahamas) or else I would really be trying to find some time to do this.
Ok gents, new vids are up. including a new GamerBee replay and a guy who sent an insane amount of voicemails lol. Oh and this is to the PS3 users, if there is any Adon you would like me to follow on xbox and upload replays of for you then please just let me know and i’ll be happy to do so for you. I don’t mind who it is and i’ll upload as many of his replays as I can for you. If you want me to do this just let me know what his GT is and i’ll start doing it.
I have been busy but will make some time this weekend to catch up on the vids. As for Xbox players idk. I recall watching RamenAddict on youtube at some point. Not sure if he is still playing though…
Oh cool, really enjoy your analysis and would love some pointers on the Aquasilk vids since gief is my worst matchup. I added RamenAddict to my followers list for you, he is a few places below me on the adon leaderboard so he must play often. I’ll upload as many replays for you as i can when he’s on.